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To: Austin Healey <healeys@autox.team.net>
Subject: [Healeys] Toyota five-speed problem
From: Michael Oritt <michael.oritt@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 25 Dec 2018 13:13:21 -0500
Delivered-to: mharc@autox.team.net
Delivered-to: healeys@autox.team.net
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Sixteen years and about 50,000 miles ago I purchased a conversion kit and a
rebuilt Toyota five-speed transmission from Smith (Smitty) Brodie after
second gear in my original three-speed box broke while I was travelling in
CA following Conclave 2002 in Tahoe.  Smitty gave me the use of his shop,
lift, tools and lots of help and along with a couple of local Healey guys
whose names have escaped me we installed the new transmission and I was
able to drive back home to Maryland with no issues.

Last week I took the car for a long ride (see "Every Ride is a Test Ride"
string) and on the way home I began to experience some difficulty getting
the car into fourth gear, especially on upshifts, and though I was able to
get into gear there was a "crunch" on engagement and often the stick would
pop out of gear.   During another long ride yesterday things went further
south and I was totally unable to get into fourth, plus there seemed to be
some resistance when upshifting into third.

I did a bit of googling and found several posts where people had similar
issues and merely by changing their gearbox oil the problems went away.
Hoping against hope this morning I drained the Redline MT90 which has been
in the car for about a year (no metal bits, etc) and refilled with fresh.
Unfortunately nothing changed and I was still unable to get into fourth,
either going up or down through the gears and despite my rev-matching or
double-clutching.

I've gotten a lot of good use of the gearbox and clutch and I'm certainly
not complaining.  Plus I am fortunate to have a local mechanic who has
worked on many manual boxes of all kinds, so I'm not afraid to remove the
transmission and give it to him for a rebuild.  However before I simply
pull the unit out I wonder if there are any detent balls/springs or the
like under the top cover or whatever that might have come loose, etc. and
are causing the problem.  I know there are a lot of us with Smitty's
conversions and if anyone has any thoughts I would appreciate input.

Best--Michael Oritt

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff"><span=
 style=3D"color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:Verdana,Arial,Tahoma,Calibri,Gene=
va,sans-serif;font-size:13px">Sixteen years and about 50,000 miles ago I pu=
rchased a conversion kit and a rebuilt Toyota five-speed transmission from =
Smith (Smitty) Brodie after second gear in my original three-speed box brok=
e while I was travelling in CA following Conclave 2002 in Tahoe.=C2=A0 Smit=
ty gave me the use of his shop, lift, tools and lots of help and along with=
 a couple of local Healey guys whose names have escaped me we installed the=
 new transmission and I was able to drive back home to Maryland with no iss=
ues.</span><br style=3D"color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:Verdana,Arial,Tahom=
a,Calibri,Geneva,sans-serif;font-size:13px"><br style=3D"color:rgb(34,34,34=
);font-family:Verdana,Arial,Tahoma,Calibri,Geneva,sans-serif;font-size:13px=
"><span style=3D"color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:Verdana,Arial,Tahoma,Calib=
ri,Geneva,sans-serif;font-size:13px">Last week I took the car for a long ri=
de (see &quot;Every Ride is a Test Ride&quot; string) and on the way home I=
 began to experience some difficulty getting the car into fourth gear, espe=
cially on upshifts, and though I was able to get into gear there was a &quo=
t;crunch&quot; on engagement and often the stick would pop out of gear.=C2=
=A0 =C2=A0During another long ride yesterday things went further south and =
I was totally unable to get into fourth, plus there seemed to be some resis=
tance when upshifting into third.</span><br style=3D"color:rgb(34,34,34);fo=
nt-family:Verdana,Arial,Tahoma,Calibri,Geneva,sans-serif;font-size:13px"><b=
r style=3D"color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:Verdana,Arial,Tahoma,Calibri,Gen=
eva,sans-serif;font-size:13px"><span style=3D"color:rgb(34,34,34);font-fami=
ly:Verdana,Arial,Tahoma,Calibri,Geneva,sans-serif;font-size:13px">I did a b=
it of googling and found several posts where people had similar issues and =
merely by changing their gearbox oil the problems went away.=C2=A0 Hoping a=
gainst hope this morning I drained the Redline MT90 which has been in the c=
ar for about a year (no metal bits, etc) and refilled with fresh.=C2=A0 Unf=
ortunately nothing changed and I was still unable to get into fourth, eithe=
r going up or down through the gears and despite my rev-matching or double-=
clutching.</span><br style=3D"color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:Verdana,Arial=
,Tahoma,Calibri,Geneva,sans-serif;font-size:13px"><br style=3D"color:rgb(34=
,34,34);font-family:Verdana,Arial,Tahoma,Calibri,Geneva,sans-serif;font-siz=
e:13px"><span style=3D"color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:Verdana,Arial,Tahoma=
,Calibri,Geneva,sans-serif;font-size:13px">I&#39;ve gotten a lot of good us=
e of the gearbox and clutch and I&#39;m certainly not complaining.=C2=A0 Pl=
us I am fortunate to have a local mechanic who has worked on many manual bo=
xes of all kinds, so I&#39;m not afraid to remove the transmission and give=
 it to him for a rebuild.=C2=A0 However before I simply pull the unit out I=
 wonder if there are any detent balls/springs or the like under the top cov=
er or whatever that might have come loose, etc. and are causing the problem=
.=C2=A0 I know there are a lot of us with Smitty&#39;s conversions and if a=
nyone has any thoughts I would appreciate input.=C2=A0</span><br style=3D"c=
olor:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:Verdana,Arial,Tahoma,Calibri,Geneva,sans-ser=
if;font-size:13px"><br style=3D"color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:Verdana,Ari=
al,Tahoma,Calibri,Geneva,sans-serif;font-size:13px"></div><div class=3D"gma=
il_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff">Best--Michael Oritt</div></div>

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