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Yes the big deal is that LEDs are so much more efficient in producing more =
light for less amps.=20
Lumens per Watt are orders of magnitude different.=20
rg=20
From: "Roland Wilhelmy" <sentenac.rw@gmail.com>=20
To: "Name missing - roggrace@telus_net" <roggrace@telus.net>=20
Cc: "AH Mail List" <healeys@autox.team.net>=20
Sent: Monday, February 25, 2019 7:43:39 PM=20
Subject: Re: [Healeys] LED Headlight Conversion advice=20
The real issue is what it does for a Healey electrical system. Using Roger'=
s numbers it saves 60 watts or 5 amps at 12 volts. Many Healey generators p=
roduce 20 to 22 amps max (not what they produce slogging through traffic on=
a rainy night). So I see 5 amps saved as being a big deal in a :Healey.=20
-Roland=20
On Monday, February 25, 2019, Roger Grace < roggrace@telus.net > wrote:=20
mmmm... well you asked for it ... !!=20
Moss gives H4 LED at 25 W per light=20
Typical halogen H4 is around 55W=20
Thus a net savings of 30 W per light.=20
1W =3D 1J per sec=20
1kWh is 3.6 mJ=20
So extra energy used/saved is 0.03 kW per hour=20
=3D 0.108 mJ per hour=20
using 35mJ energy content per litre of gasoline=20
... mmm no comments about regular or hi octane please !=20
this translates into 3.7ml =3D approx. 2.5 teaspoons per hour per light sav=
ing=20
So 5 teaspoons per hour net saving for both lights.=20
Note this is just the electrical energy savings.=20
So allowing 90% efficy for generator and say 30% for the IC engine likely n=
et saving is around 18.5 teaspoons or 23.1 ml per hour !!=20
rg=20
From: "Ron Fine" < ronfineesq@earthlink.net >=20
To: "Al Fuller" < alfuller194@gmail.com >, "AH Mail List" < healeys@autox.t=
eam.net >=20
Sent: Monday, February 25, 2019 9:47:47 AM=20
Subject: Re: [Healeys] LED Headlight Conversion advice=20
I am wondering what the energy savings would be between these LED lights an=
d the standard sealed beam lights I now use?=20
Ron Fine=20
From: Al Fuller=20
Sent: Monday, February 25, 2019 5:08 AM=20
To: AH Mail List=20
Subject: Re: [Healeys] LED Headlight Conversion advice=20
Any idea of who besides little British carry the kit?=20
Al Fuller=20
On Mon, Feb 25, 2019, 2:45 AM Michael MacLean < rrengineer.mike@att.net wro=
te:=20
BQ_BEGIN
I bought the same pair of conversion LED headlights last week for $76.63 on=
sale with Little British Car Co. Sounds like the sale is over. Going to pu=
t them on my Bugeye.=20
Mike MacLean=20
Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android=20
BQ_BEGIN
On Sun, Feb 24, 2019 at 8:10 PM, Bob Haskell=20
< rchaskell@earthlink.net > wrote:=20
Listers,=20
Just got the weekly email from Little British Car Company and they're=20
selling a pair of semi-sealed 7" round headlight with H4 LED bulbs that=20
will work with positive or negative ground for about $90 (P/N=20
171-LEDHL101). NFI.=20
Cheers,=20
Bob Haskell=20
Austin Healey 3000 MkI registrar=20
http://www.ciahc.org/registry_3000mk1.php=20
On 2/20/19 3:42 PM, bgdrab@eastlink.ca wrote:=20
> Since I posted that I had the led lights and loved them I have had=20
> several enquiries asking me from whom and what kind I used. To further=20
> clarify my post on LED headlights, I had some original Lucas Tripod=20
> headlights in my car. They did not use the H4 bulb but a much larger=20
> bulb with a much larger base. The set I got was from the UK and included=
=20
> an adapter ring which allowed me to use the H$ style LED bulb in my=20
> Tripod headlights.=20
>=20
> I unfortunately don=E2=80=99t remember the name of the company I=E2=80=99=
d got the=20
> lights from nor the exact price but I believe the all in price including=
=20
> shipping was around $125. I=E2=80=99m going to dig through some informati=
on=20
> that I have and try to locate the company name and the headlight kit=20
> name. I=E2=80=99ll post that info when (and if) I find it. I do have to=
=20
> reiterate =E2=80=93 the difference is well worth the effort, especially i=
f you=20
> do a lot of night driving.=20
>=20
> It is also worth noting that these aren=E2=80=99t a simple conversion fro=
m=20
> sealed beams as some thought. You must have the European style head=20
> lights with a replaceable bulb.=20
>=20
> Brian Drab=20
>=20
> *From:* warthodson@aol.com < warthodson@aol.com >=20
> *Sent:* February 19, 2019 8:26 AM=20
> *To:* healeys@autox.team.net=20
> *Subject:* [Healeys] LED Headlight Conversion advice=20
>=20
> There seems to be a big difference between the two options (Litezupp &=20
> Moss) listed below.=20
>=20
> I am not familiar enough with each to understand the pros & cons of=20
> each. Obviously, the Litzupp is a simple bulb replacement, While the=20
> Moss product requites some wiring adaptions.=20
>=20
> The Litzupp appear to be screw in bases, not the type of base used in=20
> non-sealed beam headlights. Do they offer just the replacement bulb that=
=20
> would fit into an existing vintage non-sealed beam head lamp?=20
>=20
> Gary Hodson=20
>=20
> Litezupp Ind. LLC. Www.litezupp.com < http://Www.litezupp.com >=20
>=20
> Ira Erbs=20
> Portland, OR=20
> typos and artifacts are the fault of my phone=20
>=20
> Op 19-2-2019 om 05:21 schreef Bob Spidell:=20
>=20
> Either:=20
> https://mossmotors.com/led-conversion-kits-for-7-h4-headlamps=20
>=20
> (see option dropdown)=20
>=20
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<html><body><div style=3D"font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-s=
ize: 12pt; color: #000000"><div>Yes the big deal is that LEDs are so much m=
ore efficient in producing more light for less amps.<br></div><div>Lumens p=
er Watt are orders of magnitude different.<br data-mce-bogus=3D"1"></div><d=
iv>rg<br data-mce-bogus=3D"1"></div><div><br></div><hr id=3D"zwchr" data-ma=
rker=3D"__DIVIDER__"><div data-marker=3D"__HEADERS__"><b>From: </b>"Roland =
Wilhelmy" <sentenac.rw@gmail.com><br><b>To: </b>"Name missing - roggr=
ace@telus_net" <roggrace@telus.net><br><b>Cc: </b>"AH Mail List" <=
healeys@autox.team.net><br><b>Sent: </b>Monday, February 25, 2019 7:43:3=
9 PM<br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [Healeys] LED Headlight Conversion advice<br></=
div><div><br></div><div data-marker=3D"__QUOTED_TEXT__">The real issue is w=
hat it does for a Healey electrical system. Using Roger's numbers it saves =
60 watts or 5 amps at 12 volts. Many Healey generators produce 20 to 22 amp=
s max (not what they produce slogging through traffic on a rainy night).&nb=
sp; So I see 5 amps saved as being a big deal in a :Healey. <div>-Rola=
nd<br><br>On Monday, February 25, 2019, Roger Grace <<a href=3D"mailto:r=
oggrace@telus.net" target=3D"_blank" data-mce-href=3D"mailto:roggrace@telus=
.net">roggrace@telus.net</a>> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote=
" style=3D"margin: 0 0 0 .8ex; border-left: 1px #ccc solid; padding-left: 1=
ex;" data-mce-style=3D"margin: 0 0 0 .8ex; border-left: 1px #ccc solid; pad=
ding-left: 1ex;"><div><div style=3D"font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif=
; font-size: 12pt; color: #000000;" data-mce-style=3D"font-family: arial,he=
lvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; color: #000000;"><div> mmmm... we=
ll you asked for it ... !!<br></div><br><div>Moss gives H4 LED at 25 W per =
light<br></div><div>Typical halogen H4 is around 55W <br></div><div>Thus a =
net savings of 30 W per light.<br></div><div>1W =3D 1J per sec<br></div><di=
v>1kWh is 3.6 mJ<br></div><div>So extra energy used/saved is 0.03 kW per ho=
ur</div><div>=3D 0.108 mJ per hour<br></div><div>using 35mJ energy content =
per litre of gasoline <br></div><div>... mmm no comments about regular or h=
i octane please !<br></div><div>this translates into 3.7ml =3D approx. 2.5 =
teaspoons per hour per light saving<br></div><br><div>So 5 teaspoons per ho=
ur net saving for both lights.<br></div><div>Note this is just the electric=
al energy savings.<br></div><br><div>So allowing 90% efficy for generator a=
nd say 30% for the IC engine likely net saving is around 18.5 teaspoons or =
23.1 ml per hour !!<br></div><br><div>rg<br></div><br><br><br><hr><div><b>F=
rom: </b>"Ron Fine" <<a href=3D"mailto:ronfineesq@earthlink.net"; target=
=3D"_blank" data-mce-href=3D"mailto:ronfineesq@earthlink.net";>ronfineesq@ea=
rthlink.net</a>><br><b>To: </b>"Al Fuller" <<a href=3D"mailto:alfulle=
r194@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank" data-mce-href=3D"mailto:alfuller194@gmail=
.com">alfuller194@gmail.com</a>>, "AH Mail List" <<a href=3D"mailto:h=
ealeys@autox.team.net" target=3D"_blank" data-mce-href=3D"mailto:healeys@au=
tox.team.net">healeys@autox.team.net</a>><br><b>Sent: </b>Monday, Februa=
ry 25, 2019 9:47:47 AM<br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [Healeys] LED Headlight Conve=
rsion advice<br></div><br><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div style=3D"font-size: 10=
pt; font-family: 'Arial'; color: #000000;" data-mce-style=3D"font-size: 10p=
t; font-family: 'Arial'; color: #000000;"><div>I am wondering what the ener=
gy savings would be between these LED lights and the standard sealed beam l=
ights I now use?</div><div> </div><div>Ron Fine</div><div style=3D"fon=
t-size: small; text-decoration: none; font-family: 'Calibri'; font-weight: =
normal; color: #000000; font-style: normal; display: inline;" data-mce-styl=
e=3D"font-size: small; text-decoration: none; font-family: 'Calibri'; font-=
weight: normal; color: #000000; font-style: normal; display: inline;"><div =
style=3D"font: 10pt tahoma;" data-mce-style=3D"font: 10pt tahoma;"><div>&nb=
sp;</div><div style=3D"background: #f5f5f5;" data-mce-style=3D"background: =
#f5f5f5;"><div><b>From:</b> <a title=3D"alfuller194@gmail.com">Al Fuller</a=
><br></div><div><b>Sent:</b> Monday, February 25, 2019 5:08 AM</div><div><b=
>To:</b> <a title=3D"healeys@autox.team.net">AH Mail List</a><br></div><div=
><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] LED Headlight Conversion advice</div></div><=
/div><div> </div></div><div style=3D"font-size: small; text-decoration=
: none; font-family: 'Calibri'; font-weight: normal; color: #000000; font-s=
tyle: normal; display: inline;" data-mce-style=3D"font-size: small; text-de=
coration: none; font-family: 'Calibri'; font-weight: normal; color: #000000=
; font-style: normal; display: inline;"><div>Any idea of who besides little=
British carry the kit?<br><br><div>Al Fuller</div></div><div> </div><=
div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr">On Mon, Feb 25, 2019, 2:45 AM Mi=
chael MacLean <<a>rrengineer.mike@att.net</a> wrote:<br></div><blockquot=
e class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"padding-left: 1ex; border-left: #ccc 1px s=
olid; margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;" data-mce-style=3D"padding-left: 1ex; bord=
er-left: #ccc 1px solid; margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;">I bought the same pair=
of conversion LED headlights last week for $76.63 on sale with Little Brit=
ish Car Co. Sounds like the sale is over. Going to put them on =
my Bugeye.<div>Mike MacLean<br><br><div><a href=3D"https://go.onelink.me/10=
7872968?pid=3DInProduct&c=3DGlobal_Internal_YGrowth_AndroidEmailSig__An=
droidUsers&af_wl=3Dym&af_sub1=3DInternal&af_sub2=3DGlobal_YGrow=
th&af_sub3=3DEmailSignature" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank" data-=
mce-href=3D"https://go.onelink.me/107872968?pid=3DInProduct&c=3DGlobal_=
Internal_YGrowth_AndroidEmailSig__AndroidUsers&af_wl=3Dym&af_sub1=
=3DInternal&af_sub2=3DGlobal_YGrowth&af_sub3=3DEmailSignature">Sent=
from Yahoo Mail on Android</a><br></div><br><blockquote style=3D"margin: 0=
px 0px 20px;" data-mce-style=3D"margin: 0px 0px 20px;"><div style=3D"font-f=
amily: roboto,sans-serif; color: #6d00f6;" data-mce-style=3D"font-family: r=
oboto,sans-serif; color: #6d00f6;"><div>On Sun, Feb 24, 2019 at 8:10 PM, Bo=
b Haskell</div><div><<a rel=3D"noreferrer">rchaskell@earthlink.net</a>&g=
t; wrote:</div></div><div style=3D"border-left: #6d00f6 1px solid; margin: =
10px 0px 0px; padding: 10px 0px 0px 20px;" data-mce-style=3D"border-left: #=
6d00f6 1px solid; margin: 10px 0px 0px; padding: 10px 0px 0px 20px;"><div d=
ir=3D"ltr">Listers,<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"> </div><div dir=3D"ltr">=
Just got the weekly email from Little British Car Company and they're <br><=
/div><div dir=3D"ltr">selling a pair of semi-sealed 7" round headlight with=
H4 LED bulbs that <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">will work with positive or ne=
gative ground for about $90 (P/N <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">171-LEDHL101).&=
nbsp; NFI.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"> </div><div dir=3D"ltr">Cheers,<b=
r></div><div dir=3D"ltr"> </div><div dir=3D"ltr">Bob Haskell<br></div>=
<div dir=3D"ltr">Austin Healey 3000 MkI registrar<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"=
><a href=3D"http://www.ciahc.org/registry_3000mk1.php"; rel=3D"noreferrer" t=
arget=3D"_blank" data-mce-href=3D"http://www.ciahc.org/registry_3000mk1.php=
">http://www.ciahc.org/registry_3000mk1.php</a><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&=
nbsp;</div><div dir=3D"ltr">On 2/20/19 3:42 PM, <a rel=3D"noreferrer">bgdra=
b@eastlink.ca</a> wrote:<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">> Since I posted that=
I had the led lights and loved them I have had <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">=
> several enquiries asking me from whom and what kind I used. To further=
<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">> clarify my post on LED headlights, I had s=
ome original Lucas Tripod <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">> headlights in my =
car. They did not use the H4 bulb but a much larger <br></div><div dir=3D"l=
tr">> bulb with a much larger base. The set I got was from the UK and in=
cluded <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">> an adapter ring which allowed me to =
use the H$ style LED bulb in my <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">> Tripod head=
lights.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">> <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">> I un=
fortunately don=E2=80=99t remember the name of the company I=E2=80=99d got =
the <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">> lights from nor the exact price but I b=
elieve the all in price including <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">> shipping =
was around $125. I=E2=80=99m going to dig through some information <b=
r></div><div dir=3D"ltr">> that I have and try to locate the company nam=
e and the headlight kit <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">> name. I=E2=80=99ll =
post that info when (and if) I find it. I do have to <br></div><div dir=3D"=
ltr">> reiterate =E2=80=93 the difference is well worth the effort, espe=
cially if you <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">> do a lot of night driving.<br=
></div><div dir=3D"ltr">> <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">> It is also wor=
th noting that these aren=E2=80=99t a simple conversion from <br></div><div=
dir=3D"ltr">> sealed beams as some thought. You must have the European =
style head <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">> lights with a replaceable bulb.<=
br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">> <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">> Brian Drab<b=
r></div><div dir=3D"ltr">> <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">> *From:*<a rel=
=3D"noreferrer">warthodson@aol.com</a> <<a rel=3D"noreferrer">warthodson=
@aol.com</a>><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">> *Sent:* February 19, 2019 8=
:26 AM<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">> *To:* <a rel=3D"noreferrer">healeys@a=
utox.team.net</a><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">> *Subject:* [Healeys] LED H=
eadlight Conversion advice<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">> <br></div><div di=
r=3D"ltr">> There seems to be a big difference between the two options (=
Litezupp & <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">> Moss) listed below.<br></div=
><div dir=3D"ltr">> <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">> I am not familiar en=
ough with each to understand the pros & cons of <br></div><div dir=3D"l=
tr">> each. Obviously, the Litzupp is a simple bulb replacement, While t=
he <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">> Moss product requites some wiring adapti=
ons.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">> <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">> The Lit=
zupp appear to be screw in bases, not the type of base used in <br></div><d=
iv dir=3D"ltr">> non-sealed beam headlights. Do they offer just the repl=
acement bulb that <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">> would fit into an existin=
g vintage non-sealed beam head lamp?<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">> <br></d=
iv><div dir=3D"ltr">> Gary Hodson<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">> <br></d=
iv><div dir=3D"ltr">> Litezupp Ind. LLC. <a href=3D"http://Www.litezupp.=
com" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank" data-mce-href=3D"http://Www.litez=
upp.com">Www.litezupp.com</a> <<a href=3D"http://Www.litezupp.com"; rel=
=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank" data-mce-href=3D"http://Www.litezupp.com"=
>http://Www.litezupp.com</a>><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">> <br></div><=
div dir=3D"ltr">> Ira Erbs<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">> Portland, OR<b=
r></div><div dir=3D"ltr">> typos and artifacts are the fault of my phone=
<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">> <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">> =
Op 19-2-2019 om 05:21 schreef Bob Spidell:<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"=
>> <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">> &n=
bsp; Either:<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">> &n=
bsp; <a href=3D"https://mossmotors.com/led-conversion-kits-for-7-h4-h=
eadlamps" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank" data-mce-href=3D"https://mos=
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