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Re: [Healeys] BJ8 tach disassembly

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Subject: Re: [Healeys] BJ8 tach disassembly
From: Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.net>
Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2019 07:24:53 -0800
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Michael, how do you know?

I'll start.  I had two cans on the shelf, with nearly identical colors 
and labeling.  One was 'CRC Electronic Parts Cleaner' and one was 'CRC 
Electrical Parts Cleaner.' I don't remember if I misread the labels, or 
just didn't think there was a difference, but I grabbed the 'Electrical 
Parts' can and started spraying the guts of my speedometer.  Well, I 
took most of the paint off the odometer before I realized my gaff.  I 
finished cleaning the speedo with 'Electronic Parts' cleaner without 
mishap. Fortunately, Testor's makes a nice enamel with near-perfect 
match colors.  Listers, pay attention to your cans.

I've used '3M Adhesive Remover' on lots of things, esp. 3M adhesive 
(duh) and upholstery glue, and it's never removed paint. It's so good, 
you can't buy it in California any more.

bs

On 3/5/2019 8:20 PM, Michael Salter wrote:
> Yes Tom, The paint on the face and inner rim is easily damaged and I 
> would recommend extreme care with any solvent.
> ( Don't ask me how I know :-( )
>
> M
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 6, 2019 at 5:13 PM Tom <ah3000me@gmail.com 
>
>     Michael, Mike, Steve,
>
>     Thanks for your comments!
>
>     Quick question...   can a solvent damage the face?    I think I'd
>     be better off damaging the glass than damaging the face.
>
>     - Tom
>
>
>     On Tue, Mar 5, 2019 at 7:42 PM BJ8Healeys <sbyers@ec.rr.com
>
>         I dribbled a solvent sparingly (acetone or 3M adhesive
>         remover, I forget which -- or maybe both) around the edges of
>         the glass.  Eventually the bond released.
>
>         Steve Byers
>
>         HBJ8L/36666
>
>         BJ8 Registry
>
>         AHCA Delegate at Large
>
>         Havelock, NC
>
>         *From:*Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net
>         *Michael Salter
>         *Sent:* Tuesday, March 05, 2019 3:48 PM
>         *To:* Tom
>         *Cc:* Healey Mail List
>         *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] BJ8 tach disassembly
>
>         Hi Tom,
>
>         What you have encountered is not uncommon. The manufacturers
>         seemed to use an adhesive of some sort to secure the rim and
>         the glass in position and it dries out and becomes very hard.
>
>         I would recommend putting the 2 small screws back in as the
>         mechanism does not have to come out at this stage.
>
>         You have to very gently pry the glass and inner rim, which is
>         under the glass to get it out.
>
>         You need to get a blade under the edge of the inner rim to
>         avoid chipping the glass.
>
>         As I recall there is a slot in the case that you can use as a
>         starting point.
>
>         Take your time and gently work away at it ... it will move
>         eventually.
>
>         M
>
>         On Wed, Mar 6, 2019 at 9:15 AM Tom <ah3000me@gmail.com
>
>             Hi everyone,
>
>             I have some white dust inside the BJ8 tach that I'd like
>             to clean up.    I found disassembly instruction on John
>             Simm's site.  After removing the trim ring, and undoing
>             the two screws holding the mechanism to the case, the
>             glass face is firmly stuck to the case.
>
>             If I can pop the glass face off, I can easily clean it
>             with a can of compressed air.  But the glass face is
>             stuck, and I don't want to break something.  Anyone have
>             any ideas how to do this?
>
>             thanks again,
>
>             Tom
>
>

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    <p>Michael, how do you know?</p>
    <p>I'll start.  I had two cans on the shelf, with nearly identical
      colors and labeling.  One was 'CRC Electronic Parts Cleaner' and
      one was 'CRC Electrical Parts Cleaner.' I don't remember if I
      misread the labels, or just didn't think there was a difference,
      but I grabbed the 'Electrical Parts' can and started spraying the
      guts of my speedometer.  Well, I took most of the paint off the
      odometer before I realized my gaff.  I finished cleaning the
      speedo with 'Electronic Parts' cleaner without mishap. 
      Fortunately, Testor's makes a nice enamel with near-perfect match
      colors.  Listers, pay attention to your cans.</p>
    <p>I've used '3M Adhesive Remover' on lots of things, esp. 3M
      adhesive (duh) and upholstery glue, and it's never removed paint. 
      It's so good, you can't buy it in California any more.<br>
    </p>
    <p>bs<br>
    </p>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 3/5/2019 8:20 PM, Michael Salter
      wrote:<br>
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        <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans
          ms,sans-serif;font-size:small">Yes Tom, The paint on the face
          and inner rim is easily damaged and I would recommend extreme
          care with any solvent.  <br>
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        <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans
          ms,sans-serif;font-size:small">( Don't ask me how I know :-( 
          )<br>
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        <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans
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        <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Mar 6, 2019 at 5:13 PM
          Tom &lt;<a href="mailto:ah3000me@gmail.com";
            moz-do-not-send="true">ah3000me@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
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          <div dir="ltr">Michael, Mike, Steve,
            <div><br>
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            <div>Thanks for your comments!  </div>
            <div><br>
            </div>
            <div>Quick question...   can a solvent damage the face?    I
              think I'd be better off damaging the glass than damaging
              the face.</div>
            <div><br>
            </div>
            <div>- Tom</div>
            <div><br>
            </div>
          </div>
          <br>
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            <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Mar 5, 2019 at
              7:42 PM BJ8Healeys &lt;<a href="mailto:sbyers@ec.rr.com";
                target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">sbyers@ec.rr.com</a>&gt;
              wrote:<br>
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                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                      style="font-size:11pt;font-family:&quot;Comic Sans
                      MS&quot;;color:rgb(0,32,96)">I dribbled a solvent
                      sparingly (acetone or 3M adhesive remover, I
                      forget which -- or maybe both) around the edges of
                      the glass.  Eventually the bond released.  </span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                      style="font-size:11pt;font-family:&quot;Comic Sans
                      MS&quot;;color:rgb(0,32,96)"> </span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                      style="font-size:11pt;font-family:&quot;Comic Sans
                      MS&quot;;color:rgb(0,32,96)">Steve Byers</span><span
style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,32,96)"></span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                      style="font-size:11pt;font-family:&quot;Comic Sans
                      MS&quot;;color:rgb(0,32,96)">HBJ8L/36666</span><span
style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,32,96)"></span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                      style="font-size:11pt;font-family:&quot;Comic Sans
                      MS&quot;;color:rgb(0,32,96)">BJ8 Registry</span><span
style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,32,96)"></span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                      style="font-size:11pt;font-family:&quot;Comic Sans
                      MS&quot;;color:rgb(0,32,96)">AHCA Delegate at
                      Large</span><span
                      
style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,32,96)"></span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                      style="font-size:11pt;font-family:&quot;Comic Sans
                      MS&quot;;color:rgb(0,32,96)">Havelock, NC  </span><span
style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,32,96)"></span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                      
style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,32,96)"> </span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                      style="font-size:11pt;font-family:&quot;Comic Sans
                      MS&quot;;color:rgb(0,32,96)"> </span></p>
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                    <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
                          
style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif"> Healeys [mailto:<a
                          href="mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net";
                          target="_blank" 
moz-do-not-send="true">healeys-bounces@autox.team.net</a>]
                        <b>On Behalf Of </b>Michael Salter<br>
                        <b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, March 05, 2019 3:48 PM<br>
                        <b>To:</b> Tom<br>
                        <b>Cc:</b> Healey Mail List<br>
                        <b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] BJ8 tach
                        disassembly</span></p>
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                  <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                  <div>
                    <div>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                          style="font-family:&quot;Comic Sans MS&quot;">Hi
                          Tom,</span></p>
                    </div>
                    <div>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                          style="font-family:&quot;Comic Sans MS&quot;">What
                          you have encountered is not uncommon. The
                          manufacturers seemed to use an adhesive of
                          some sort to secure the rim and the glass in
                          position and it dries out and becomes very
                          hard.</span></p>
                    </div>
                    <div>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                          style="font-family:&quot;Comic Sans MS&quot;">I
                          would recommend putting the 2 small screws
                          back in as the mechanism does not have to come
                          out at this stage.</span></p>
                    </div>
                    <div>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                          style="font-family:&quot;Comic Sans MS&quot;">You
                          have to very gently pry the glass and inner
                          rim, which is under the glass to get it out. 
</span></p>
                    </div>
                    <div>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                          style="font-family:&quot;Comic Sans MS&quot;">You
                          need to get a blade under the edge of the
                          inner rim to avoid chipping the glass.</span></p>
                    </div>
                    <div>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                          style="font-family:&quot;Comic Sans MS&quot;">As
                          I recall there is a slot in the case that you
                          can use as a starting point. </span></p>
                    </div>
                    <div>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                          style="font-family:&quot;Comic Sans MS&quot;">Take
                          your time and gently work away at it ... it
                          will move eventually.</span></p>
                    </div>
                    <div>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                          style="font-family:&quot;Comic Sans 
MS&quot;"> </span></p>
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                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                          style="font-family:&quot;Comic Sans 
MS&quot;">M</span></p>
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                  <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
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                      <p class="MsoNormal">On Wed, Mar 6, 2019 at 9:15
                        AM Tom &lt;<a href="mailto:ah3000me@gmail.com";
                          target="_blank" 
moz-do-not-send="true">ah3000me@gmail.com</a>&gt;
                        wrote:</p>
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                        <p class="MsoNormal">Hi everyone,</p>
                        <div>
                          <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                        </div>
                        <div>
                          <p class="MsoNormal">I have some white dust
                            inside the BJ8 tach that I'd like to clean
                            up.    I found disassembly instruction on
                            John Simm's site.  After removing the trim
                            ring, and undoing the two screws holding the
                            mechanism to the case, the glass face is
                            firmly stuck to the case.   </p>
                        </div>
                        <div>
                          <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                        </div>
                        <div>
                          <p class="MsoNormal">If I can pop the glass
                            face off, I can easily clean it with a can
                            of compressed air.  But the glass face is
                            stuck, and I don't want to break something. 
                             Anyone have any ideas how to do this?</p>
                        </div>
                        <div>
                          <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                        </div>
                        <div>
                          <p class="MsoNormal">thanks again,</p>
                        </div>
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                          <p class="MsoNormal">Tom</p>
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