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Re: [Healeys] 100M dates

To: Mike MacLean <rrengineer.mike@att.net>, Ken Fleming <ahmg@aol.com>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] 100M dates
From: "josef-eckert@t-online.de" <josef-eckert@t-online.de>
Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2019 23:14:37 +0200 (CEST)
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Mike,
I am fully with you. DHMC needed some money and they got it by selling and=
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botching in the modifications.
DHMC sold every gadget they could offer for the cars.
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Josef Eckert
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Datum: 2019-07-22T23:02:14+0200
Von: "Mike MacLean" <rrengineer.mike@att.net>
An: "Ken Fleming" <ahmg@aol.com>
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Hate to be cynical about it, but weren't the factory M cars just a=20
marketing strategy to gin up the slow sales after the next big thing was=20
announced? ( 6 cylinder cars)
Mike MacLean
On Jul 22, 2019 11:53 AM, Ken Fleming via Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>=
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wrote:
  Perry, I  am certainly not the knowledge base on the subject and their
  are others that have deeper knowledge.=20
  In fact the earlier converted cars were actually in less numbers and
  served as the basis for the production 100M. DMH saw an opportunity to
  market the performance mods especially to the US market. Though the
  number of kits sold has been debated, the number of 519 I believe has
  been shared over the years starting with Geoff Healey who quoted 1159 M
  were produced of which the 640 is included, but no documentation exists
  to confirm.
  If that is case, then there are less converted pre production M then
  factory though the factory M were a result of the converted ones.
  I have a Aug 54 100 that was converted in period.
  Good discussion on the subject and I am open to more information on the
  subject from the list.
  Ken


  Sent from my iPhone

  On Jul 22, 2019, at 2:39 PM, Perry Small <healeyguy@aol.com


      Curious. Why did it take from 1953 to 1955 to build a real 100m if
      the parts were readily available?  Maybe I=E2=80=99m overlooking an o=
bvious
      reason.=20
      Thanks
      P=20

      Sent from my iPhone

      On Jul 22, 2019, at 1:49 PM, Ken Fleming via Healeys <


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          David, just confirmed that in late 53 Donald Healey Motor Co
          begin offering kit P280 to BMC dealers. I would assume West Coast
          likely were on the front end of that offering
          So yes late 53.
          Ken

          Sent from my iPhone

          On Jul 22, 2019, at 1:31 PM, David P <frogeye@porterscustom.com


              I don't think that is correct. Maybe very late '55- makes
              more sense with them knowing that the end of the 4cyl was
              coming..
              On 7/22/2019 11:04 AM, Ken Fleming via Healeys wrote:

                  If my memory serves me the first kits were available as
                  early as 53.
                  Ken=20

                  Sent from my iPhone

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e=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt;color:#000000;te=
xt-decoration:none">Mike,<br /></span></p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px;"><span style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-s=
erif;font-size:10pt;color:#000000;text-decoration:none">I am fully with you=
. DHMC needed some money and they got it by selling and botching in the mod=
ifications.</span></p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px;"><span style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-s=
erif;font-size:10pt;color:#000000;text-decoration:none">DHMC sold every gad=
get they could offer for the cars.</span></p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px;">&nbsp;</p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px;"><span style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-s=
erif;font-size:10pt;color:#000000;text-decoration:none">Josef Eckert</span>=
</p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px;"><span style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-s=
erif;font-size:10pt;color:#000000;text-decoration:none">&nbsp;</span></p>
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<p style=3D"margin: 0px;">Betreff: Re: [Healeys] 100M dates</p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px;">Datum: 2019-07-22T23:02:14+0200</p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px;">Von: "Mike MacLean" &lt;rrengineer.mike@att.net&g=
t;</p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px;">An: "Ken Fleming" &lt;ahmg@aol.com&gt;</p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px;">&nbsp;</p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px;">&nbsp;</p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px;">&nbsp;</p>
<div>
<div dir=3D"auto">Hate to be cynical about it, but weren't the factory M ca=
rs just a marketing strategy to gin up the slow sales after the next big th=
ing was announced? ( 6 cylinder cars)
<div dir=3D"auto">Mike MacLean</div>
</div>
<div class=3D"gmail_extra">
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Jul 22, 2019 11:53 AM, Ken Fleming via Healey=
s &lt;healeys@autox.team.net&gt; wrote:<br />
<blockquote class=3D"quote" style=3D"margin: 0 0 0 .8ex; border-left: 1px #=
ccc solid; padding-left: 1ex;">
<div dir=3D"auto">Perry, I &nbsp;am certainly not the knowledge base on the=
 subject and their are others that have deeper knowledge.&nbsp;
<div>In fact the earlier converted cars were actually in less numbers and s=
erved as the basis for the production 100M. DMH saw an opportunity to marke=
t the performance mods especially to the US market. Though the number of ki=
ts sold has been debated, the number of 519 I believe has been shared over =
the years starting with Geoff Healey who quoted 1159 M were produced of whi=
ch the 640 is included, but no documentation exists to confirm.</div>
<div>If that is case, then there are less converted pre production M then f=
actory though the factory M were a result of the converted ones.</div>
<div>I have a Aug 54 100 that was converted in period.</div>
<div>Good discussion on the subject and I am open to more information on th=
e subject from the list.</div>
<div>Ken</div>
<div><br /><br />
<div dir=3D"ltr">Sent from my iPhone</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr"><br />On Jul 22, 2019, at 2:39 PM, Perry Small &lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:healeyguy@aol.com";>healeyguy@aol.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br /><br /><=
/div>
<blockquote>
<div dir=3D"ltr">Curious. Why did it take from 1953 to 1955 to build a real=
 100m if the parts were readily available? &nbsp;Maybe I&rsquo;m overlookin=
g an obvious reason.&nbsp;
<div>Thanks</div>
<div>P&nbsp;<br /><br />
<div dir=3D"ltr">Sent from my iPhone</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr"><br />On Jul 22, 2019, at 1:49 PM, Ken Fleming via Healeys=
 &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";>healeys@autox.team.net</a>&g=
t; wrote:<br /><br /></div>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">
<div dir=3D"ltr">&nbsp;</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">David, just confirmed that in late 53 Donald Healey Motor =
Co begin offering kit P280 to BMC dealers. I would assume West Coast likely=
 were on the front end of that offering</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">So yes late 53.</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">Ken<br /><br />
<div dir=3D"ltr">Sent from my iPhone</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr"><br />On Jul 22, 2019, at 1:31 PM, David P &lt;<a href=3D"=
mailto:frogeye@porterscustom.com";>frogeye@porterscustom.com</a>&gt; wrote:<=
br /><br /></div>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">
<p style=3D"margin: 0px;">I don't think that is correct. Maybe very late '5=
5- makes more sense with them knowing that the end of the 4cyl was coming..=
</p>
<div>On 7/22/2019 11:04 AM, Ken Fleming via Healeys wrote:</div>
<blockquote>If my memory serves me the first kits were available as early a=
s 53.
<div>Ken&nbsp;<br /><br />
<div dir=3D"ltr">Sent from my iPhone</div>
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