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Thanks to Earl, Bob and others for good suggestions and ideas.
However after lot more poking around little progress and still cant replica=
te the noise.One thing is that if the car has stood in the coolness of over=
night it takes about 10 mins for it to be back with a vengance. The irritat=
ing thing is that it is random and a definitive pattern still elludes me. N=
oise seems to be in the vicinity of the volt regulator box.One of these day=
s will remove the passenger air vent hose and try to access the plate Earl =
referred to.Think that this could be the culprit.Thank yourg
----- Original Message -----
From: Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.net>
To: healeys@autox.team.net
Sent: Thu, 18 Jul 2019 08:52:16 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Dash Area Noise
Earl,Is this Moss# 858-385 (#44 on page 118 of the latest catalog0?=20
You're describing the problem I have.Bob
On 7/17/2019 11:22 PM, Earl Kagna
wrote:
Roger: This reminds me of a similar situation that I had many
years ago on my BJ8 =E2=80=93 a =E2=80=98thunk=E2=80=99 sound from the lef=
t side of
the dash area (or so I thought) on certain bumps but not
others. Drove me nuts trying to find it - literally for
years. Finally found it when the car was torn down in
conjunction with the total restoration. There are 2 plates =E2=80=93 one o=
n each side of the car =E2=80=93 called
wing support brackets in the body manual (plate BC 2) - that
tie the assembled wing / shroud flange to the top of the
inner wheel arch. The manual is not very clear on this
thing. When dismantling this part of the body, we found the pair
of bolt / nut assemblies totally missing and clear evidence
that this was the source of the =E2=80=98thunk=E2=80=99. But it sure
sounded like it was coming from the dash or bonnet. Your problem just migh=
t be that these bolts are there but
loose, which could conceivably cause a creak type of sound
that seems to be from the dash area. Try pressing down on
the right side fender / shroud close to the centre of the
wheel cut out and maybe fore and aft a bit to see if you can
produce a similar sound. The bad news is that these things
are a real pain to get to on an assembled car =E2=80=93 they are
almost impossible to see, let alone service as they are up
high and behind the air hoses on both sides, and can=E2=80=99t be
accessed from the wheel arch because of the inner fender
position. If all else fails, it=E2=80=99s worth a try. Let us know. Earl =
Kagna
Victoria, B.C.
BJ8, BT7 tri-carbFrom:Roger GraceSent: Wednesday, July 17, 2019 6:20 PMTo:m=
ailto:healeys@autox.team.netSubject: [Healeys] Dash Area Noise 67 BJ8=20
Am about fit to be tied !=20
Have been struggling with a new intermittant noise for
about a month now.=20
Seems to eminate in the dash area above left side of
glove box,=20
A creak rather than a clunk.=20
So what have I done.=20
Tightened everything in that area - starter mounts,
clecked bell housing, checked brake booster mounts,
jammed the air vents solid, removed center console and
still no improvement.Tightened windshield side mounts
doors checked.=20
Was convinced was something to do with the heater
controls - spent most of one weekend removing and
replacing it more securely (what a pia job !).=20
The noise is not tied to road or engine speed, but worse
when going over uneven surface, even very slowly. Also
thought was worse after car was warm so switched heater
valve off.=20
Thought had breakthrough as got a lot better with top up
that pointed to windshield mounts. But no after a few
days back as before. Actually sounds like expansion type
noise.=20
It even occasionally does one or 2 creaks when car
stops.=20
In last 2 years had windshield replaced so wonder if
could be a problem there ?=20
Cannot recreate the noise with all manner of pushing and
pulling of dash or glovebox or airvents and windshield
in that area.=20
Tried jacking the rear end up in case was chassis but no
change,=20
What is maddening is that there are times when for
aboiut 20 mins of driving it is gone....=20
Ideas please !=20
rg.
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<html><head><style> body {height: 100%; color:#000000; font-size:12pt; font=
-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;}</style></head><body><div>Thanks to Ear=
l, Bob and others for good suggestions and ideas.<br></div><div>However aft=
er lot more poking around little progress and still cant replicate the nois=
e.<br data-mce-bogus=3D"1"></div><div>One thing is that if the car has stoo=
d in the coolness of overnight it takes about 10 mins for it to be back wit=
h a vengance. The irritating thing is that it is random and a definitive pa=
ttern still elludes me. Noise seems to be in the vicinity of the volt regul=
ator box.<br data-mce-bogus=3D"1"></div><div>One of these days will remove =
the passenger air vent hose and try to access the plate Earl referred to.<b=
r data-mce-bogus=3D"1"></div><div>Think that this could be the culprit.<br =
data-mce-bogus=3D"1"></div><div>Thank you<br data-mce-bogus=3D"1"></div><di=
v>rg<br data-mce-bogus=3D"1"></div><div><br data-mce-bogus=3D"1"></div><div=
><br></div><div>----- Original Message -----<br>From: Bob Spidell <bspid=
ell@comcast.net><br>To: healeys@autox.team.net<br>Sent: Thu, 18 Jul 2019=
08:52:16 -0600 (MDT)<br>Subject: Re: [Healeys] Dash Area Noise<br></div><d=
iv><br></div><p>Earl,</p><p>Is this Moss# 858-385 (#44 on page 118 of the l=
atest catalog0? <br> You're describing the problem I have.</p><p>Bob<b=
r></p><div class=3D"moz-cite-prefix">On 7/17/2019 11:22 PM, Earl Kagna<br> =
wrote:<br></div><blockquote cite=3D"mid:ADE3F931602D49508EE44B532CC7A141@Ka=
gsLaptop"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div style=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Ari=
al'; color: <br> #141100;" data-mce-style=3D"font-size: 12pt; font=
-family: 'Arial'; color: <br> #141100;"><div>Roger:</div><div>&nbs=
p;</div><div>This reminds me of a similar situation that I had many<br> yea=
rs ago on my BJ8 =E2=80=93 a =E2=80=98thunk=E2=80=99 sound from the left si=
de of<br> the dash area (or so I thought) on certain bumps but not<br> othe=
rs. Drove me nuts trying to find it - literally for<br> years. Finall=
y found it when the car was torn down in<br> conjunction with the total res=
toration.</div><div> </div><div>There are 2 plates =E2=80=93 one on ea=
ch side of the car =E2=80=93 called<br> wing support brackets in the body m=
anual (plate BC 2) - that<br> tie the assembled wing / shroud flange to the=
top of the<br> inner wheel arch. The manual is not very clear on thi=
s<br> thing.</div><div> </div><div>When dismantling this part of the b=
ody, we found the pair<br> of bolt / nut assemblies totally missing and cle=
ar evidence<br> that this was the source of the =E2=80=98thunk=E2=80=99.&nb=
sp; But it sure<br> sounded like it was coming from the dash or bonnet.</di=
v><div> </div><div>Your problem just might be that these bolts are the=
re but<br> loose, which could conceivably cause a creak type of sound<br> t=
hat seems to be from the dash area. Try pressing down on<br> the righ=
t side fender / shroud close to the centre of the<br> wheel cut out and may=
be fore and aft a bit to see if you can<br> produce a similar sound. =
The bad news is that these things<br> are a real pain to get to on an assem=
bled car =E2=80=93 they are<br> almost impossible to see, let alone service=
as they are up<br> high and behind the air hoses on both sides, and can=E2=
=80=99t be<br> accessed from the wheel arch because of the inner fender<br>=
position.</div><div> </div><div>If all else fails, it=E2=80=99s worth=
a try. Let us know.</div><div> </div><div style=3D"font-size: 1=
2pt; font-family: 'Arial'; color: <br> #141100;" data-mce-style=
=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Arial'; color: <br> #141100;"=
>Earl Kagna<br><div><br></div>Victoria, B.C.<br><div><br></div>BJ8, BT7 tri=
-carb</div><div><div style=3D"font: 10pt tahoma;" data-mce-style=3D"font: 1=
0pt tahoma;"><div style=3D"background: #f5f5f5;" data-mce-style=3D"backgrou=
nd: #f5f5f5;"><div style=3D"font-color: black;" data-mce-style=3D"font-colo=
r: black;"><b>From:</b><a title=3D"roggrace@telus.net" href=3D"mailto:roggr=
ace@telus.net" target=3D"_blank" data-mce-href=3D"mailto:roggrace@telus.net=
">Roger Grace</a><br data-mce-bogus=3D"1"></div><div><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday=
, July 17, 2019 6:20 PM</div><div><b>To:</b><a title=3D"healeys@autox.team.=
net" href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank" data-mce-href=
=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";>mailto:healeys@autox.team.net</a><br dat=
a-mce-bogus=3D"1"></div><div><b>Subject:</b> [Healeys] Dash Area Noise</div=
></div></div><div> </div></div><div style=3D"font-size: small; text-de=
coration: none; <br> font-family: 'Calibri'; font-weight: normal=
; <br> color: #000000; font-style: normal; display: inline;" dat=
a-mce-style=3D"font-size: small; text-decoration: none; <br> fon=
t-family: 'Calibri'; font-weight: normal; <br> color: #000000; f=
ont-style: normal; display: inline;"><div><div class=3D"text">67 BJ8 <br><d=
iv><br></div>Am about fit to be tied ! <br><div><br></div>Have been struggl=
ing with a new intermittant noise for<br> about a month now. <br><div><br><=
/div>Seems to eminate in the dash area above left side of<br> glove box, <b=
r><div><br></div>A creak rather than a clunk. <br><div><br></div>So what ha=
ve I done. <br><div><br></div>Tightened everything in that area - starter m=
ounts,<br> clecked bell housing, checked brake booster mounts,<br> jammed t=
he air vents solid, removed center console and<br> still no improvement.Tig=
htened windshield side mounts<br> doors checked. <br><div><br></div>Was con=
vinced was something to do with the heater<br> controls - spent most of one=
weekend removing and<br> replacing it more securely (what a pia job !). <b=
r><div><br></div>The noise is not tied to road or engine speed, but worse<b=
r> when going over uneven surface, even very slowly. Also<br> thought was w=
orse after car was warm so switched heater<br> valve off. <br><div><br></di=
v>Thought had breakthrough as got a lot better with top up<br> that pointed=
to windshield mounts. But no after a few<br> days back as before. Actually=
sounds like expansion type<br> noise. <br><div><br></div>It even occasiona=
lly does one or 2 creaks when car<br> stops. <br><div><br></div>In last 2 y=
ears had windshield replaced so wonder if<br> could be a problem there ? <b=
r><div><br></div>Cannot recreate the noise with all manner of pushing and<b=
r> pulling of dash or glovebox or airvents and windshield<br> in that area.=
<br><div><br></div>Tried jacking the rear end up in case was chassis but n=
o<br> change, <br><div><br></div>What is maddening is that there are times =
when for<br> aboiut 20 mins of driving it is gone.... <br><div><br></div>Id=
eas please ! <br><div><br></div>rg.</div></div><p><br></p><hr></div></div><=
/div></blockquote><div><br></div><div><br></div></body></html>
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