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I agree with Perry. Unless your wife is VERY short, a headrest mounted =
to the seat back will have to be (rough guess) a foot above the top of =
the seat to be at head level. There=E2=80=99s a reason you never see =
that in a modern car; the physics of mounting it that high, assuming the =
legs are even long enough, are not in your favor to provide any sort of =
protection=E2=80=94it=E2=80=99s simply too long a lever. And, as Perry =
notes, the seat back structure is insubstantial; it=E2=80=99s just a =
concave piece of sheet metal. There is no top bar you can drill through =
as in the video. =20
=20
Your idea of captive nuts welded onto the seat backs suggests that the =
whole mounting apparatus would be external to the upholstery. Again, =
given the lever effect, and the metal substructure, I would be very =
concerned that the whole assembly would be, again to use Perry=E2=80=99s =
term, flimsy. The only option I can see that would have some structural =
integrity is to weld tubes onto the back of the seat backs, which would =
require a completely reupholstering the backs. =20
=20
If you want headrests, and a more comfortable seat to boot, I=E2=80=99d =
think it would be a whole lot easier to just replace the seats with ones =
from a Mazda Miata. If I recall correctly, Al Fuller did this in one of =
his Healeys.
=20
=20
Bruce Steele
Brea, CA
1960 BN7
=20
From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Perry =
via Healeys
Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2019 2:53 PM
To: healeylist <Healeys@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] headrest
=20
Skip
There is next to no substantial structure to support the headrest, =
especially in a collision situation. The seat backs are, well you know =
how strong they are. Lets just say, flimsy. Maybe a properly =
constructed and mounted roll bar with a head rest pad would be more =
appropriate.=20
This has its own issues, good and bad, in an accident.=20
Perry
=20
Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=3D550986> for =
Windows 10
=20
Sent: Thursday, September 5, 2019 5:35 PM
Subject: [Healeys] headrest
=20
Thanks to everyone for the suggestions on buying parts at a discount. =20
=20
I=E2=80=99ve another question: Has anyone installed headrests in the =
Healey 3000?. I=E2=80=99ve a BJ8, my wife would like headrests. Is =
there a kit suitable for adding headrests to Healey seats?.... =
I=E2=80=99m tempted by this arrangement:
=20
https://www.extremeterrain.com/corbeau-baja-bench-seat-headrest-black-vin=
yl-8717-yj-tj-jk.html?utm_content=3DXT%20Interior%20-%20Seats%7CCorbeau =
<https://www.extremeterrain.com/corbeau-baja-bench-seat-headrest-black-vi=
nyl-8717-yj-tj-jk.html?utm_content=3DXT%20Interior%20-%20Seats%7CCorbeau&=
T5_Var4=3DJ109565&intl=3D0&utm_campaign=3DXTW+Wrangler+No+Vehicle+High&di=
alogtech=3Dppc&utm_source=3Dgoogle-pla&utm_medium=3Dshopping&T5_Var2=3Dsh=
opping&gclid=3DCj0KCQjw5MLrBRClARIsAPG0WGwlfZ3zqANKdQb6Xo6n_5IXMBi_Z_NlIH=
m-bgnpKF8qYkvh2f1ghDsaAoozEALw_wcB&gclsrc=3Daw.ds> =
&T5_Var4=3DJ109565&intl=3D0&utm_campaign=3DXTW+Wrangler+No+Vehicle+High&d=
ialogtech=3Dppc&utm_source=3Dgoogle-pla&utm_medium=3Dshopping&T5_Var2=3Ds=
hopping&gclid=3DCj0KCQjw5MLrBRClARIsAPG0WGwlfZ3zqANKdQb6Xo6n_5IXMBi_Z_NlI=
Hm-bgnpKF8qYkvh2f1ghDsaAoozEALw_wcB&gclsrc=3Daw.ds
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using guide tubes such as used in this video:
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DMq91ZpOVvEY
=20
and perhaps using this bracket (or similar home-brew) to establish =
strength for the bottom of the headrests:
=20
https://www.npdlink.com/product/bracket-accessory-sport-seat-headrest-to-=
fit-on/105113/200167
=20
=20
My thoughts involve welding captured nuts into the existing metal seat =
back frame. Then fabricating a bracket assembly that can be mounted to =
the seat back into the captured nuts=E2=80=A6.and have the whole =
headrest attachment something that can be added/removed as the mood fits =
the situation=E2=80=A6
=20
Anyone else have other ideas?....better ideas?.... actual experience?
=20
Thanks
-skip-
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vlink=3D"#954F72"><div class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif'>I agree =
with Perry.=C2=A0 Unless your wife is VERY short, a headrest mounted to =
the seat back will have to be (rough guess) a foot above the top of the =
seat to be at head level. =C2=A0There=E2=80=99s a reason you never see =
that in a modern car; the physics of mounting it that high, assuming the =
legs are even long enough, are not in your favor to provide any sort of =
protection=E2=80=94it=E2=80=99s simply too long a lever.=C2=A0 And, as =
Perry notes, the seat back structure is insubstantial; it=E2=80=99s just =
a concave piece of sheet metal.=C2=A0 There is no top bar you can drill =
through as in the video.=C2=A0 <o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet =
MS",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif'>Your =
idea of captive nuts welded onto the seat backs suggests that the whole =
mounting apparatus would be external to the upholstery.=C2=A0 Again, =
given the lever effect, and the metal substructure, I would be very =
concerned that the whole assembly would be, again to use Perry=E2=80=99s =
term, flimsy.=C2=A0 The only option I can see that would have some =
structural integrity is to weld tubes onto the back of the seat backs, =
which would require a completely reupholstering the backs. =
=C2=A0<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet =
MS",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif'>If you =
want headrests, and a more comfortable seat to boot, I=E2=80=99d think =
it would be a whole lot easier to just replace the seats with ones from =
a Mazda Miata.=C2=A0 If I recall correctly, Al Fuller did this in one of =
his Healeys.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet =
MS",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet =
MS",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet =
MS",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Bruce Steele<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet =
MS",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Brea, CA<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet =
MS",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>1960 BN7<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet =
MS",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b>From:</b> Healeys =
[mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Perry via =
Healeys<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, September 05, 2019 2:53 =
PM<br><b>To:</b> healeylist =
<Healeys@autox.team.net><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] =
headrest<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Skip<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>There is next =
to no substantial structure to support the headrest, especially in a =
collision situation. The seat backs are, well you know how strong =
they are. Lets just say, flimsy. Maybe a properly constructed and =
mounted roll bar with a head rest pad would be more appropriate. =
<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>This has its own issues, good and =
bad, in an accident. <o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Perry<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Sent from <a =
href=3D"https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=3D550986";>Mail</a> for =
Windows 10<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b>From: </b><a =
href=3D"mailto:tfsbj7@gmail.com";>skip saunders</a><br><b>Sent: =
</b>Thursday, September 5, 2019 5:35 PM<br><b>To: </b><a =
href=3D"mailto:Healeys@autox.team.net";>healeylist</a><br><b>Subject: =
</b>[Healeys] headrest<o:p></o:p></p></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Thanks to =
everyone for the suggestions on buying parts at a discount. =
<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>I=E2=80=99ve another question: Has anyone installed =
headrests in the Healey 3000?. I=E2=80=99ve a BJ8, my wife =
would like headrests. Is there a kit suitable for =
adding headrests to Healey seats?.... I=E2=80=99m tempted by this =
arrangement:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><a =
href=3D"https://www.extremeterrain.com/corbeau-baja-bench-seat-headrest-b=
lack-vinyl-8717-yj-tj-jk.html?utm_content=3DXT%20Interior%20-%20Seats%7CC=
orbeau&T5_Var4=3DJ109565&intl=3D0&utm_campaign=3DXTW+Wrangler=
+No+Vehicle+High&dialogtech=3Dppc&utm_source=3Dgoogle-pla&utm=
_medium=3Dshopping&T5_Var2=3Dshopping&gclid=3DCj0KCQjw5MLrBRClARI=
sAPG0WGwlfZ3zqANKdQb6Xo6n_5IXMBi_Z_NlIHm-bgnpKF8qYkvh2f1ghDsaAoozEALw_wcB=
&gclsrc=3Daw.ds">https://www.extremeterrain.com/corbeau-baja-bench-se=
at-headrest-black-vinyl-8717-yj-tj-jk.html?utm_content=3DXT%20Interior%20=
-%20Seats%7CCorbeau&T5_Var4=3DJ109565&intl=3D0&utm_campaign=3D=
XTW+Wrangler+No+Vehicle+High&dialogtech=3Dppc&utm_source=3Dgoogle=
-pla&utm_medium=3Dshopping&T5_Var2=3Dshopping&gclid=3DCj0KCQj=
w5MLrBRClARIsAPG0WGwlfZ3zqANKdQb6Xo6n_5IXMBi_Z_NlIHm-bgnpKF8qYkvh2f1ghDsa=
AoozEALw_wcB&gclsrc=3Daw.ds</a><o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>using guide =
tubes such as used in this video:<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><a =
href=3D"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DMq91ZpOVvEY";>https://www.youtub=
e.com/watch?v=3DMq91ZpOVvEY</a><o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>and perhaps =
using this bracket (or similar home-brew) to establish strength for the =
bottom of the headrests:<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><a =
href=3D"https://www.npdlink.com/product/bracket-accessory-sport-seat-head=
rest-to-fit-on/105113/200167">https://www.npdlink.com/product/bracket-acc=
essory-sport-seat-headrest-to-fit-on/105113/200167</a><o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>My thoughts =
involve welding captured nuts into the existing metal seat back =
frame. Then fabricating a bracket assembly that can be mounted to =
the seat back into the captured nuts=E2=80=A6.and have the whole =
headrest attachment something that can be added/removed as the mood fits =
the situation=E2=80=A6<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Anyone else =
have other ideas?....better ideas?.... actual =
experience?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Thanks<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>-skip-<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p =
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