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I believe the pumps now have 'County' cast into their bodies (but I'm
not sure).
My experience(s) with County pumps may have been the most egregious: One
failed immediately after install--and caused my fan to penetrate my
radiator--and the second was failed out-of-the box. In both cases, the
shaft broke/was broken clean in two. I'm not a metallurgist, but it
appeared to me the crystalline structure of the 'steel' didn't look
right. My take now is if the pump works for a few hours, it will likely
last for a while, but County used a really cheap and sub-optimal type of
seal, and you likely won't get the usual 50-100K miles out of their pumps.
I was informed by a knowledgeable source--former head of Cust. Serv. at
Moss--that the original owner of County died suddenly, and whoever took
over didn't give a flying fig (my term, suitable for family audiences)
about quality. All bets off, of course, if County has somehow upped
their game in the last few years.  When I had my BJ8 engine rebuilt,
all the 'usual suspects' only sold County pistons, so I sprung for DWM's*.
Get one of Michael's kits (or see if you can talk him into rebuilding
one for you ;).
Bob
* If I'd known SteveG had the correct build specs for oversized pistons
from a reputable supplier--Venolia IIRC--I would have gone that route.
On 10/7/2019 7:14 AM, simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com wrote:
>
> I had a leaky pump and bought a kit from Michael. Worked well. You
> really need a BIG VICE or a pressâ?¦.
>
> Iâ??ve never heard anything better than â??itâ??s lasted so farâ?? with
> reference to County pumps. When I was looking at my options and asking
> around, I found most of UK suppliers to be strangely reticent as to
> the manufacturer of their pumps. None of them failed a straight â??Is it
> a County pump? Yes or no!â??, but there was an amusing reluctanceâ?¦
>
> Simon
>
> *From:*Healeys <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net> *On Behalf Of *Richard
> Collins
> *Sent:* 07 October 2019 14:45
> *To:* John Spaur <jmsdarch@sbcglobal.net>
> *Cc:* Ahealey help <healeys@autox.team.net>; i erbs <eyera3000@gmail.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] moss water pump
>
> Couple of years ago I bought one out of the UK to avoid the issues
> others had with US sourced pumps. Turned out it was the same mfg. fit
> ok however and still works.
>
> Regards,
>
> Richard of KY
>
> BN7 440
>
>
>
> On Oct 7, 2019, at 02:26, John Spaur <jmsdarch@sbcglobal.net
>
> 
>
> No on purchasing the pump, however, high running temps probably
> are not associated with the pump.
>
> John Spaur
>
> â??62 BT7
>
> *From:*Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] *On Behalf
> Of *i erbs
> *Sent:* Sunday, October 6, 2019 10:46 PM
> *To:* Ahealey help <healeys@autox.team.net
> *Subject:* [Healeys] moss water pump
>
> Howdy all,
>
> Â Has anyone recently purchased a water pump for the 3000 engine
> from Moss? There were comments about quality in the past. I
> replaced my pump as preventative maintenance about 10 years ago
> and 3000 miles. I am still chasing some high running temps. I was
> given a gift certificate for Moss and that I would replace the
> pump on the off chance it is my problem. The issue was with the
> County pumps. Wish I could find my original one and rebuild it...
>
> Thanks
>
> Ira Erbs
>
> Portland,OR
>
> Â Â _______ Â Â Â _______
> Â Â Â (______ \____1959 BN4____/ _______)
> (_________________________)
>
> Â Â Â Â BT7 engine and disk brakes
>
> 1967 MGB MG
>
>
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I believe the pumps now have 'County' cast into their bodies (but
I'm not sure).<br>
<br>
My experience(s) with County pumps may have been the most egregious:
One failed immediately after install--and caused my fan to penetrate
my radiator--and the second was failed out-of-the box. In both
cases, the shaft broke/was broken clean in two. I'm not a
metallurgist, but it appeared to me the crystalline structure of the
'steel' didn't look right. My take now is if the pump works for a
few hours, it will likely last for a while, but County used a really
cheap and sub-optimal type of seal, and you likely won't get the
usual 50-100K miles out of their pumps.<br>
<br>
I was informed by a knowledgeable source--former head of Cust.Â
Serv. at Moss--that the original owner of County died suddenly, and
whoever took over didn't give a flying fig (my term, suitable for
family audiences) about quality. All bets off, of course, if County
has somehow upped their game in the last few years.  When I had my
BJ8 engine rebuilt, all the 'usual suspects' only sold County
pistons, so I sprung for DWM's*.<br>
<br>
Get one of Michael's kits (or see if you can talk him into
rebuilding one for you ;).<br>
<br>
Bob<br>
<br>
* If I'd known SteveG had the correct build specs for oversized
pistons from a reputable supplier--Venolia IIRC--I would have gone
that route.<br>
<br>
<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">I
had a leaky pump and bought a kit from Michael. Worked well.
You really need a BIG VICE or a pressâ?¦.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Iâ??ve
never heard anything better than â??itâ??s lasted so farâ?? with
reference to County pumps. When I was looking at my options
and asking around, I found most of UK suppliers to be
strangely reticent as to the manufacturer of their pumps.
None of them failed a straight â??Is it a County pump? Yes or
no!â??, but there was an amusing reluctanceâ?¦<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Simon<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p>Â </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
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lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"
lang="EN-US"> Healeys
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net";><healeys-bounces@autox.team.net></a>
<b>On Behalf Of
</b>Richard Collins<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 07 October 2019 14:45<br>
<b>To:</b> John Spaur <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:jmsdarch@sbcglobal.net";><jmsdarch@sbcglobal.net></a><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Ahealey help <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";><healeys@autox.team.net></a>;
i erbs <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:eyera3000@gmail.com";><eyera3000@gmail.com></a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] moss water
pump<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p>Â </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Couple of
years ago I bought one out of the UK to avoid the issues
others had with US sourced pumps. Turned out it was the same
mfg. fit ok however and still works.<span
style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Regards, <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Richard of KY<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">BN7 440<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p>Â </o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">On Oct 7,
2019, at 02:26, John Spaur <<a
href="mailto:jmsdarch@sbcglobal.net";
moz-do-not-send="true">jmsdarch@sbcglobal.net</a>>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">No
on purchasing the pump, however, high running temps
probably are not associated with the pump.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Â </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">John
Spaur</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">â??62
BT7</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Â </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">
Healeys [<a href="mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net";
moz-do-not-send="true">mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>i erbs<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, October 6, 2019 10:46 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Ahealey help <<a
href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";
moz-do-not-send="true">healeys@autox.team.net</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Healeys] moss water pump</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Â <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Howdy all,<o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">Â Has anyone recently purchased a
water pump for the 3000 engine from Moss? There were
comments about quality in the past. I replaced my pump
as preventative maintenance about 10 years ago and
3000 miles. I am still chasing some high running
temps. I was given a gift certificate for Moss and
that I would replace the pump on the off chance it is
my problem. The issue was with the County pumps. Wish
I could find my original one and rebuild it...<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Thanks<br clear="all">
<o:p></o:p></p>
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Erbs<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Â
  _______    Â
        Â
Â
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   (______
\____1959 BN4____/
_______)<br>
    Â
(_________________________)<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Â
    BT7 engine
and disk
brakes<o:p></o:p></p>
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class="MsoNormal">Â <o:p></o:p></p>
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MGB Â <img
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alt="MG"
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width="50"
height="49"
border="0"><o:p></o:p></p>
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