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To: Healey List <Healeys@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] seat installation
From: Engl <engl@accesscomm.ca>
Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2019 23:17:15 -0600
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Harold

I did likewise, but this method kind of negates the pull-the-carpet-when-it-=
gets-wet theorem. I agree with John,though, that if one did cut the carpet t=
he slivers of carpet left would flop around and soon tear off.=20

Bob England

> On Oct 18, 2019, at 10:07 PM, John Spaur <jmsdarch@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>=20
> =EF=BB=BF
> I installed mine on top of the carpet which I believe to be correct. If yo=
u don=E2=80=99t do it that way you will end up with a little sliver of carpe=
t forward and aft of the belt attachment that will flop around.
> =20
> John
> =E2=80=9962 BT7
> =20
> From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Harold M=
anifold
> Sent: Friday, October 18, 2019 5:23 PM
> To: 'Healey List' <healeys@autox.team.net>
> Subject: Re: [Healeys] seat installation
> =20
> Another seat question. By BT7 did not have seat belts when originally buil=
t. I have purchased the hardware but don't know if the door side seat belt a=
nchor is on top of the carpet or if the carpet trimmed around the anchor bra=
cket? Picture of bracket is attached.
> =20
> Thanks ... Harold
> =20
> From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of i erbs
> Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2019 1:25 PM
> To: Len and/or Marge Hartnett
> Cc: AH Mail List
> Subject: Re: [Healeys] seat installation
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> Len,
> There should be both a wood strip and a metal plate. I decided to glue my c=
arpet to my sound/heat material feeling it would shield against wet carpets r=
usting my floorboards and trans tunnel . I could not get the snaps to pull t=
he carpet down smoothly and it just looked terrible. The factory would have c=
ut the carpet around the metal and wood, so you could remove your carpet to d=
ry it out when it got wet. Much cheaper than actually working to keep the ca=
rs from leaking in the rain.\:)
> Ira Erbs
> Portland,OR
>       _______                                  _______
>      (______ \____1959 BN4____/ _______)
>          (_________________________)
>           BT7 engine and disk brakes
> =20
> =20
> 1967 MGB =20
> =20
> A racing car is an animal with a thousand adjustments. Mario Andretti
> Please excuse random auto corrects and misspelled words
> =20
> =20
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> On Thu, Oct 17, 2019 at 12:35 PM Len and/or Marge Hartnett <thehartnetts@e=
arthlink.net> wrote:
> =20
> Bob and Brad:  Curious about this thread, I took a look at my seat install=
ation.  Without removing the seat, wood, and alleged metal plate, I can say t=
hat my assembly sits ON the carpet.  The carpet and seat installation was do=
ne quite a while ago.  I may have referenced the Moss video but can't rememb=
er.  However, as a novice doing this for the first time, I would have used t=
he "remove/replace in reverse order" system implying that that was how the o=
riginal seat was installed.  I can not see if there is a metal plate in ther=
e but I do not see a picture or listing of such a plate in the Moss catalog,=
 Seat Frames, Foams, Fittings..
> =20
> (The Other) Len
> Fairfield, CA, USA
> 1967 AH 3000 MkIII, HBJ8L39031
> =20
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Bob England
> To: bradh904@gmail.com ; Healeys@autox.team.net
> Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2019 9:34 AM
> Subject: Re: [Healeys] seat installation
> =20
> Brad
> =20
> The carpet is cut to accommodate the seat slides.
> =20
> The seat slides sit on a piece of wood packing, which sits on a metal stri=
p, which sits on the floor sheet metal.
> =20
> I can send photos if you like.
> =20
> BobE
> =E2=80=9965 BJ8
> =20
> From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Dave Ph=
illips
> Sent: October 17, 2019 9:04 AM
> To: Healeys@autox.team.net
> Subject: [Healeys] seat installation
> =20
> I am about to install my newly done seats over my new carpet and have a qu=
estion. Do the seat slides lay on and bolt thru the rear carpet pieces or do=
 they mount directly to the floor and the carpet cut around the slides?
> Brad Holden
> 67 BJ8
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto">Harold<div><br></div><div>I did likewise, b=
ut this method kind of negates the pull-the-carpet-when-it-gets-wet theorem.=
 I agree with John,though, that if one did cut the carpet the slivers of car=
pet left would flop around and soon tear off.&nbsp;<br><br><div dir=3D"ltr">=
Bob England</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><blockquote type=3D"cite">On Oct 18, 2=
019, at 10:07 PM, John Spaur &lt;jmsdarch@sbcglobal.net&gt; wrote:<br><br></=
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oNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,san=
s-serif;color:#1F497D">I installed mine on top of the carpet which I believe=
 to be correct. If you don=E2=80=99t do it that way you will end up with a l=
ittle sliver of carpet forward and aft of the belt attachment that will flop=
 around.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-siz=
e:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbs=
p;</o:p></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;fo=
nt-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D">John<o:p></o:p></spa=
n></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&qu=
ot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D">=E2=80=9962 BT7<o:p></o:p></span>=
</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot=
;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div><d=
iv style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in=
 0in"><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:=
&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:11.=
0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif"> Healeys [mailto:healeys-bou=
nces@autox.team.net] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Harold Manifold<br><b>Sent:</b> Fri=
day, October 18, 2019 5:23 PM<br><b>To:</b> 'Healey List' &lt;healeys@autox.=
team.net&gt;<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] seat installation<o:p></o:p></=
span></p></div></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3D=
"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sa=
ns-serif;color:blue">Another seat question. By BT7 did not have seat belts w=
hen originally built. I have purchased the hardware but don't know if the do=
or side seat belt anchor is on top of the carpet or if the carpet trimmed ar=
ound the anchor bracket? Picture of bracket is attached.</span><o:p></o:p></=
p><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3D"Ms=
oNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-=
serif;color:blue">Thanks ... Harold</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=3D"M=
soNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div class=3D"MsoNormal" align=3D"center" sty=
le=3D"text-align:center"><hr size=3D"2" width=3D"100%" align=3D"center"></di=
v><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt"><b><span style=3D"fo=
nt-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,sans-serif">From:</span></b><s=
pan style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,sans-serif"> He=
aleys [<a href=3D"mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net";>mailto:healeys-boun=
ces@autox.team.net</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>i erbs<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday,=
 October 17, 2019 1:25 PM<br><b>To:</b> Len and/or Marge Hartnett<br><b>Cc:<=
/b> AH Mail List<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] seat installation</span><o=
:p></o:p></p><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Len, <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=3D=
"MsoNormal">There should be both a wood strip and a metal plate. I decided t=
o glue my carpet to my sound/heat material feeling it would shield against w=
et carpets rusting my floorboards and trans tunnel . I could not get the sna=
ps to pull the carpet down smoothly and it just looked terrible. The factory=
 would have cut the carpet around the metal and wood, so you could remove yo=
ur carpet to dry it out when it got wet. Much cheaper than actually working t=
o keep the cars from leaking in the rain.\:)<br clear=3D"all"><o:p></o:p></p=
><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div>=
<div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Ira Erbs <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=3D"MsoNorm=
al">Portland,OR<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp; &nbsp=
; &nbsp; _______ &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nb=
sp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;_______<br>&nbsp;=
 &nbsp;&nbsp; (______ \____1959 BN4____/ _______)<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &n=
bsp;&nbsp; (_________________________)<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3D"=
MsoNormal">&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; BT7 engine and disk brakes<o:p=
></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div=
><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNorma=
l">1967 MGB &nbsp;<img border=3D"0" id=3D"_x0000_i1026" src=3D"http://www.br=
itishcarspecialists.com/assets/images/MG_emblem.jpg" alt=3D"MG" data-unique-=
identifier=3D""><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;=
</o:p></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;=
font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:#333333">A racing car is a=
n animal with a thousand adjustments. Mario Andretti</span><o:p></o:p></p></=
div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Please excuse random auto corrects and missp=
elled words<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></=
div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><=
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<o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">On Thu, Oct 17, 2019 a=
t 12:35 PM Len and/or Marge Hartnett &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:thehartnetts@eart=
hlink.net">thehartnetts@earthlink.net</a>&gt; wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><bl=
ockquote style=3D"border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0i=
n 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in"><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNor=
mal"><span lang=3D"EN-CA">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3D=
"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-CA">Bob and Brad:&nbsp; Curious about this thre=
ad, I took a look at my seat installation.&nbsp; Without removing the seat, w=
ood, and alleged metal plate, I can say that&nbsp;my assembly sits ON the ca=
rpet.&nbsp;&nbsp;The carpet and seat&nbsp;installation was done&nbsp;quite a=
 while ago.&nbsp; I may have referenced the Moss video but can't remember.&n=
bsp; However,&nbsp;as a novice doing this for the first time, I&nbsp;would h=
ave used&nbsp;the "remove/replace in reverse order" system implying that tha=
t&nbsp;was how the original seat was installed.&nbsp; I can not see if there=
 is a metal plate in there but I do not see&nbsp;a&nbsp;picture or listing&n=
bsp;of such a plate in the Moss catalog, Seat Frames, Foams, Fittings..<o:p>=
</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-CA">&nbs=
p;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-C=
A">(The Other) Len<br>Fairfield, CA, USA<br>1967 AH 3000 MkIII, HBJ8L39031<o=
:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-CA">&=
nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><blockquote style=3D"border:none;border-lef=
t:solid black 1.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt;margin-left:3.75pt;margin-top:=
5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><spa=
n lang=3D"EN-CA" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,san=
s-serif">----- Original Message ----- <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p cl=
ass=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"background:#E4E4E4"><b><span lang=3D"EN-CA" style=
=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif">From:</span><=
/b><span lang=3D"EN-CA" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&qu=
ot;,sans-serif"> <a href=3D"mailto:engl@accesscomm.ca"; target=3D"_blank" tit=
le=3D"engl@accesscomm.ca">Bob England</a> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><=
p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span lang=3D"EN-CA" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font=
-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif">To:</span></b><span lang=3D"EN-CA" sty=
le=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif"> <a href=3D=
"mailto:bradh904@gmail.com"; target=3D"_blank" title=3D"bradh904@gmail.com">b=
radh904@gmail.com</a> ; <a href=3D"mailto:Healeys@autox.team.net"; target=3D"=
_blank" title=3D"Healeys@autox.team.net">Healeys@autox.team.net</a> <o:p></o=
:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span lang=3D"EN-CA" styl=
e=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif">Sent:</span>=
</b><span lang=3D"EN-CA" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&q=
uot;,sans-serif"> Thursday, October 17, 2019 9:34 AM<o:p></o:p></span></p></=
div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span lang=3D"EN-CA" style=3D"font-size:1=
0.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif">Subject:</span></b><span lan=
g=3D"EN-CA" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-ser=
if"> Re: [Healeys] seat installation<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p clas=
s=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-CA"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div>=
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-al=
t:auto"><span lang=3D"EN-CA" style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Cal=
ibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Brad</span><span lang=3D"EN-CA"><o:p></=
o:p></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-m=
argin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang=3D"EN-CA">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p><p c=
lass=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:au=
to"><span lang=3D"EN-CA" style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri=
&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D">The carpet is cut to accommodate the seat s=
lides.</span><span lang=3D"EN-CA"><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNorma=
l" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang=3D=
"EN-CA">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-marg=
in-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang=3D"EN-CA" style=3D"fo=
nt-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D">The=
 seat slides sit on a piece of wood packing, which sits on a metal strip, wh=
ich sits on the floor sheet metal.</span><span lang=3D"EN-CA"><o:p></o:p></s=
pan></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-b=
ottom-alt:auto"><span lang=3D"EN-CA">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3D=
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sans-serif;color:#1F497D">I can send photos if you like.</span><span lang=3D=
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n-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang=3D"EN-CA" style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-famil=
y:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D">BobE</span><span lang=3D"EN-=
CA"><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt=
:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang=3D"EN-CA" style=3D"font-size:11=
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J8</span><span lang=3D"EN-CA"><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal" s=
tyle=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang=3D"EN=
-CA">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p><div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #=
B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-=
margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b><span style=3D"font-size:=
10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,sans-serif">From:</span></b><span styl=
e=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,sans-serif"> Healeys [m=
ailto:<a href=3D"mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank">he=
aleys-bounces@autox.team.net</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Dave Phillips<br><b>Se=
nt:</b> October 17, 2019 9:04 AM<br><b>To:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:Healeys@aut=
ox.team.net" target=3D"_blank">Healeys@autox.team.net</a><br><b>Subject:</b>=
 [Healeys] seat installation</span><span lang=3D"EN-CA"><o:p></o:p></span></=
p></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-b=
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"><span lang=3D"EN-CA">I am about to install my newly done seats over my new=
 carpet and have a question. Do the seat slides lay on and bolt thru the rea=
r carpet pieces or do they mount directly to the floor and the carpet cut ar=
ound the slides?<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"m=
so-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang=3D"EN-CA">Brad=
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