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Hi again Charlie,
In your original request you said that the tie rod ends were the originals
for your BN1.
I have checked an NOS BN2 tie rod end and when I measure the 7/16" thread
it is 0.433" (10.98 mm) diameter and the thread is exactly 20 T.P.I. This
is a U.N.F. thread.
A used early BN1 tie rod end thread is 0.435" (11.49 mm) in diameter and
and the thread is exactly 18 T.P.I. This is a B.S.F. thread.
The original tie rod ends on earlier BN1's were an adjustable type wherein
a split pin could be removed and the slotted cap rotated for adjustment.
After car C.# 157624 the tie rod ends were still B.S.F. but changed to a
non-adjustable type wherein the threaded cap was locked by swaging and was
not designed to be adjusted.
If the tie rod ends that you are dealing with are unlike either of these
then they are almost certainly not "original".
If your thread count is 15 T.P.I. it is obviously neither of those and
those tie rod ends probably fall into the "cheapo repo" category and the
thread could be anything that the manufacturer could find.
M
On Sat, Jan 4, 2020 at 10:52 AM Charles Schott <schottc@knology.net> wrote:
> The thread count appears to be 15 TPI. I have a 14 and a 16 TPI gage and
> it's between those two. Since a 12M X 1.5 die runs all the way down the
> threads, albeit loosely, and a 10M X 1.5 tap goes all the way through the
> slotted nut, again very loose, I think that it's metric. The diameter
> measures 10.97 MM with calipers and converted. I have not been able to find
> a 11M X 1.5 nut, let alone a slotted one. I have three of them but need
> three more.
>
> Regards,
>
> Charlie
>
> ------------------------------
> *From: *"Harold Manifold" <manifold@telus.net>
> *To: *"Charles Schott" <schottc@knology.net>, "Michael Salter" <
> michaelsalter@gmail.com>
> *Cc: *"Healeys" <healeys@autox.team.net>
> *Sent: *Friday, January 3, 2020 6:27:29 PM
> *Subject: *RE: [Healeys] Tie Rod End Slotted Nuts
>
> Charles,
>
> What is the thread per inch count and the major thread diameter of the
> ball joint (measure with a vernier or micrometer)?
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] *On Behalf Of *Charles
> Schott
> *Sent:* Friday, January 03, 2020 3:36 PM
> *To:* Michael Salter
> *Cc:* Healeys
> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Tie Rod End Slotted Nuts
>
> My car is CE# 226706 and I have a limited set of BSF taps and dies and
> none of them come close.
>
> The 12M X 1.5 die goes loosely all the way down over the stud threads.
> When I measure the diameter of the stud threads, they measure 10.97 mm. You
> tell me what I have.
>
> Regards,
>
> Charlie
>
> ------------------------------
> *From: *"Michael Salter" <michaelsalter@gmail.com>
> *To: *"Charles Schott" <schottc@knology.net>
> *Cc: *"Michael MacLean" <rrengineer.mike@att.net>, "Healeys" <
> healeys@autox.team.net>
> *Sent: *Friday, January 3, 2020 3:32:01 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [Healeys] Tie Rod End Slotted Nuts
>
> Charlie,
> If your car is prior to C.E.#228931 the castellated nuts for the original
> side and center rod ends will be part #2K3996 which I think is 7/16" BSF,
> (I don't have one to hand to check) however many of these ball joints have
> been replaced with the later UNF style over the years and they use FNZ307
> 7/16" UNF.
>
> M
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jan 3, 2020 at 4:09 PM Charles Schott <schottc@knology.net> wrote:
>
>> I need three slotted nuts for the original tie rod ends on a BN1. They
>> appear to be metric 11M X 1.5 but I cannot find them. Does anyone have them
>> or know where I can get them? Thanks.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Charlie
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:comic sa=
ns ms,sans-serif;font-size:small">Hi again Charlie,</div><div class=3D"gmai=
l_default" style=3D"font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small">I=
n your original request you said that the tie rod ends were the originals f=
or your BN1. <br><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:comic sa=
ns ms,sans-serif;font-size:small">I have checked an NOS BN2 tie rod end and=
when I measure the 7/16" thread it is 0.433" (10.98 mm) diameter=
and the thread is exactly 20 T.P.I. This is a U.N.F. thread.<br></div><div=
class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font=
-size:small">A used early BN1 tie rod end thread is 0.435" (11.49 mm) =
in diameter and and the thread is exactly 18 T.P.I. This is a B.S.F. thread=
.<br></div></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:comic sa=
ns ms,sans-serif;font-size:small">The original tie rod ends on earlier BN1&=
#39;s were an adjustable type wherein a split pin could be removed and the =
slotted cap rotated for adjustment.</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=
=3D"font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small">After car C.# 157=
624 the tie rod ends were still B.S.F. but changed to a non-adjustable type=
wherein the threaded cap was locked by swaging and was not designed to be =
adjusted.</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:comic sans=
ms,sans-serif;font-size:small">If the tie rod ends that you are dealing wi=
th are unlike either of these then they are almost certainly not "orig=
inal".<br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:comi=
c sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small">If your thread count is 15 T.P.I. it =
is obviously neither of those and those tie rod ends probably fall into the=
"cheapo repo" category and the thread could be anything that the=
manufacturer could find.</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-f=
amily:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br></div><div class=3D"gma=
il_default" style=3D"font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small">=
M<br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:comic sans ms,=
sans-serif;font-size:small"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D=
"font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br></div></div><br>=
<div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sat, Ja=
n 4, 2020 at 10:52 AM Charles Schott <<a href=3D"mailto:schottc@knology.=
net">schottc@knology.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail=
_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204=
,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><div style=3D"font-family:times new roman,new =
york,times,serif;font-size:12pt;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><div>The thread count app=
ears to be 15 TPI. I have a 14 and a 16 TPI gage and it's between those=
two. Since a 12M X 1.5 die runs all the way down the threads, albeit loose=
ly, and a 10M X 1.5 tap goes all the way through the slotted nut, again ver=
y loose, I think that it's metric. The diameter measures 10.97 MM with =
calipers and converted. I have not been able to find a 11M X 1.5 nut, let a=
lone a slotted one. I have three of them but need three more.</div><div><br=
></div><div>Regards,</div><div><br></div><div>Charlie=C2=A0</div><div><br><=
/div><hr id=3D"gmail-m_8727768328129599397zwchr"><div style=3D"color:rgb(0,=
0,0);font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;text-decoration:none;font-family:=
Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:12pt"><b>From: </b>"Harold Manifo=
ld" <<a href=3D"mailto:manifold@telus.net"; target=3D"_blank">manifo=
ld@telus.net</a>><br><b>To: </b>"Charles Schott" <<a href=
=3D"mailto:schottc@knology.net"; target=3D"_blank">schottc@knology.net</a>&g=
t;, "Michael Salter" <<a href=3D"mailto:michaelsalter@gmail.co=
m" target=3D"_blank">michaelsalter@gmail.com</a>><br><b>Cc: </b>"He=
aleys" <<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank"=
>healeys@autox.team.net</a>><br><b>Sent: </b>Friday, January 3, 2020 6:2=
7:29 PM<br><b>Subject: </b>RE: [Healeys] Tie Rod End Slotted Nuts<br><div><=
br></div>
<div dir=3D"ltr" align=3D"left"><span><span color=3D"#0000ff" size=3D"2" fa=
ce=3D"Arial" style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,255);font-family:Arial;font-size:small"=
>Charles,</span></span></div>
<div dir=3D"ltr" align=3D"left"><span><span color=3D"#0000ff" size=3D"2" fa=
ce=3D"Arial" style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,255);font-family:Arial;font-size:small"=
></span></span>=C2=A0</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr" align=3D"left"><span><span color=3D"#0000ff" size=3D"2" fa=
ce=3D"Arial" style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,255);font-family:Arial;font-size:small"=
>What is the thread per inch=C2=A0count and the major thread=20
diameter of the ball joint (measure with a vernier or=20
micrometer)?</span></span></div><br>
<div dir=3D"ltr" lang=3D"en-us" align=3D"left">
<hr>
<span size=3D"2" face=3D"Tahoma" style=3D"font-family:Tahoma;font-size:smal=
l"><b>From:</b> Healeys=20
[mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank"=
>healeys-bounces@autox.team.net</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Charles=20
Schott<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, January 03, 2020 3:36 PM<br><b>To:</b> Micha=
el=20
Salter<br><b>Cc:</b> Healeys<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Tie Rod End=
=20
Slotted Nuts<br></span><br></div>
<div></div>
<div style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:times new roman,new york,times,ser=
if;color:rgb(0,0,0)">
<div>My car is CE# 226706 and I have a limited set of BSF taps and dies and=
none=20
of them come close.</div>
<div><br></div>
<div>The 12M X 1.5 die goes loosely all the way down over the stud threads.=
When=20
I measure the diameter of the stud threads, they measure 10.97 mm. You tell=
me=20
what I have.</div>
<div><br></div>
<div>Regards,</div>
<div><br></div>
<div>Charlie</div>
<div><br></div>
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<div style=3D"font-size:12pt;text-decoration:none;font-family:Helvetica,Ari=
al,sans-serif;font-weight:normal;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-style:normal"><b>Fro=
m:=20
</b>"Michael Salter" <<a href=3D"mailto:michaelsalter@gmail.co=
m" target=3D"_blank">michaelsalter@gmail.com</a>><br><b>To: </b>"Ch=
arles=20
Schott" <<a href=3D"mailto:schottc@knology.net"; target=3D"_blank">s=
chottc@knology.net</a>><br><b>Cc: </b>"Michael MacLean"=20
<<a href=3D"mailto:rrengineer.mike@att.net"; target=3D"_blank">rrengineer=
.mike@att.net</a>>, "Healeys"=20
<<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank">healeys@aut=
ox.team.net</a>><br><b>Sent: </b>Friday, January 3, 2020 3:32:01=20
PM<br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [Healeys] Tie Rod End Slotted Nuts<br>
<div><br></div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">
<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small;font-family:comic san=
s ms,sans-serif">Charlie,=20
<br></div>
<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small;font-family:comic san=
s ms,sans-serif">If your car is=20
prior to C.E.#228931 the castellated nuts for the original side and center =
rod=20
ends will be part #2K3996 which I think is 7/16" BSF, (I don't hav=
e one to hand=20
to check)=C2=A0 however many of these ball joints have been replaced with t=
he=20
later UNF style over the years and they use FNZ307 7/16" UNF.</div>
<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small;font-family:comic san=
s ms,sans-serif"><br></div>
<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small;font-family:comic san=
s ms,sans-serif">M<br></div>
<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small;font-family:comic san=
s ms,sans-serif"><br></div>
<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small;font-family:comic san=
s ms,sans-serif"><br></div>
<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small;font-family:comic san=
s ms,sans-serif"><br></div></div><br>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">
<div class=3D"gmail_attr" dir=3D"ltr">On Fri, Jan 3, 2020 at 4:09 PM Charle=
s Schott=20
<<a href=3D"mailto:schottc@knology.net"; target=3D"_blank">schottc@knolog=
y.net</a>> wrote:<br></div>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"padding-left:1ex;border-left:1px=
solid rgb(204,204,204);margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex">
<div>
<div style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:times new roman,new york,times,s=
erif;color:rgb(0,0,0)">
<div>I need three slotted nuts for the original tie rod ends on a BN1. Th=
ey=20
appear to be metric 11M X 1.5 but I cannot find them. Does anyone have th=
em or=20
know where I can get them? Thanks.</div>
<div><br></div>
<div>Regards,</div>
<div><br></div>
<div>Charlie</div>
<div><br></div>
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