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Re: [Healeys] Steering Box Questions

To: "'Healeys'" <healeys@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Steering Box Questions
From: "Bluehealey" <bluehealey@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2020 16:14:51 -0000
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Guys.

This is an interesting thread and I absolutely agree with use of the =
NLGI grease. This becomes a =E2=80=98fit and forget=E2=80=99 mod. =
Neglible =E2=80=93 probably zero =E2=80=93 leaks and therefore no need =
to ever top up again. The stuff sticks like 5h1t to a blanket and gets =
dragged by the worm into the rocker arm bearing surface. I practically =
brimmed mine after replacing the oil seals and it has never leaked.

Regarding R&R in situ.  Removal of the column/box really isn=E2=80=99t a =
big deal. The sequence, from memory:

Disconnect the bullets and withdraw the trafficator including stator =
tube in one piece. Plug the exit hole olive and nut with a 3/8=E2=80=9D =
bolt to minimise oil over the floor.

Steering wheel off and grille out.

Undo column clamp and three box bolts. Split the steering rod joints.

The box comes out easily then by rotating it and drawing out of the =
grille opening.=20

=20

The trick for re-installing is to slide a PVC tube into the car long =
enough to pass from grille opening into the cockpit. Plumbing waste pipe =
here in the UK. The engine bay grommet plate is positioned on the =
plastic tube and the grommet as two separate items. Slide the column =
into the tube and through the grille until the box can be caught on a =
front trunnion bolt. Then withdraw the plastic tube and install the =
clamp, plates and grommets.

It isn=E2=80=99t as difficult as it may appear and makes working on the =
box a very comfortable exercise at the bench.

JM2C

Have fun

AlanB



=20

=20

From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of =
simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com
Sent: 26 January 2020 10:10
To: 'Perry'
Cc: 'Healeys'
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Steering Box Questions

=20

Yes. Further to my last email, there is further info on the tube:-

=E2=80=9CPolyurea thickened grease that is a superior corn head =
lubricant=E2=80=9D.

&

=E2=80=9CApplications:

Corn head gear cases, irrigation system gear boxes, and gear boxes =
requiring NLGi =E2=80=9CO=E2=80=9D grade grease=E2=80=9D.

&, rather relevantly,

=E2=80=9CProblem solving grease for gearboxes with leaky seals=E2=80=9D.

Were not half of the text in French, I remain confident that there would =
be reference to =E2=80=9Cleaky old Brit =
cars=E2=80=9D=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6!

Simon

=20

From: Healeys <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Perry via =
Healeys
Sent: 26 January 2020 02:19
To: healeys@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Steering Box Questions

=20

Listers

Looks like the common denominator on these thick oils/pourable greases =
is that they meet the requirements of  NLGI 00 standard (NLGI is =
National Lubricating Grease Institute).  This topic is a common one in =
the old car world with folks like us. The results of the use of this =
product, mainly lack of leaks on old steering boxes, is mentioned on =
many sites. So if you have an very old Chevy or a AH this stuff is =
helpful. Not saying that a properly repaired steering box can=E2=80=99t =
be nearly leak free but for most of us this stuff will make the =
situation much better. Don=E2=80=99t let the term grease deter your use. =
 It still flows to all the places that need lubrication but resists =
leaking out.   By the way there are lots of sources for this stuff under =
many name brands and retailers.  NAPA, John Deere and a multitude of =
others.  Use the NLGI 00 specs to find supplier near you.

Perry

=20

Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=3D550986>  for =
Windows 10

=20

Sent: Saturday, January 25, 2020 6:33 PM
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Steering Box Questions

=20

Penrite comes in grease gun cartridges.=20

I replace the filler with a 1/4 bsp nipple to fill

=20

https://www.penriteoil.com.au/assets/pis_pdfs/STEERING%20BOX%20LUBE.pdf

=20


On 26 Jan 2020, at 6:18 am, Roger Grace <roggrace@telus.net> wrote:

Two questions for the more experienced among us ...

=20

My BJ8 steering box is leaking. From the front cover and more =
significantly from the shaft.

=20

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vlink=3D"#954F72"><div class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'>Guys.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:#1F497D'>This is an interesting =
thread and I absolutely agree with use of the NLGI grease. This becomes =
a =E2=80=98fit and forget=E2=80=99 mod. Neglible =E2=80=93 probably zero =
=E2=80=93 leaks and therefore no need to ever top up again. The stuff =
sticks like 5h1t to a blanket and gets dragged by the worm into the =
rocker arm bearing surface. I practically brimmed mine after replacing =
the oil seals and it has never leaked.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:#1F497D'>Regarding R&amp;R in =
situ.=C2=A0 Removal of the column/box really isn=E2=80=99t a big deal. =
The sequence, from memory:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:#1F497D'>Disconnect the bullets =
and withdraw the trafficator including stator tube in one piece. Plug =
the exit hole olive and nut with a 3/8=E2=80=9D bolt to minimise oil =
over the floor.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'>Steering wheel off and grille =
out.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'>Undo column clamp and three box bolts. Split the =
steering rod joints.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'>The box comes out easily then by rotating it and =
drawing out of the grille opening. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:#1F497D'>The trick for =
re-installing is to slide a PVC tube into the car long enough to pass =
from grille opening into the cockpit. Plumbing waste pipe here in the =
UK. The engine bay grommet plate is positioned on the plastic tube and =
the grommet as two separate items. Slide the column into the tube and =
through the grille until the box can be caught on a front trunnion bolt. =
Then withdraw the plastic tube and install the clamp, plates and =
grommets.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'>It isn=E2=80=99t as difficult as it may appear =
and makes working on the box a very comfortable exercise at the =
bench.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'>JM2C<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:#1F497D'>Have =
fun<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'>AlanB<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:#1F497D'><img width=3D159 =
height=3D54 id=3D"Picture_x0020_1" =
src=3D"cid:image001.png@01D5D463.BC7AE880"></span><span =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'> =C2=A0<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm =
0cm 0cm'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span>=
</b><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Healeys =
[mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] <b>On Behalf Of =
</b>simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com<br><b>Sent:</b> 26 January 2020 =
10:10<br><b>To:</b> 'Perry'<br><b>Cc:</b> 'Healeys'<br><b>Subject:</b> =
Re: [Healeys] Steering Box Questions<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Yes. Further to my last email, =
there is further info on the tube:-<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>=E2=80=9CPolyurea thickened grease =
that is a superior corn head lubricant=E2=80=9D.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>&amp;<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>=E2=80=9CApplications:<o:p></o:p></s=
pan></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Corn head gear cases, irrigation =
system gear boxes, and gear boxes requiring NLGi =E2=80=9CO=E2=80=9D =
grade grease=E2=80=9D.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>&amp;, rather =
relevantly,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>=E2=80=9CProblem solving grease for =
gearboxes with leaky seals=E2=80=9D.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Were not =
half of the text in French, I remain confident that there would be =
reference to =E2=80=9Cleaky old Brit =
cars=E2=80=9D=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6!<o:p></o:p></span></p><=
p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Simon<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div><di=
v style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm =
0cm 0cm'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
lang=3DEN-US>From:</span></b><span lang=3DEN-US> Healeys =
&lt;healeys-bounces@autox.team.net&gt; <b>On Behalf Of </b>Perry via =
Healeys<br><b>Sent:</b> 26 January 2020 02:19<br><b>To:</b> =
healeys@autox.team.net<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Steering Box =
Questions<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-US>Listers<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-US>Looks like the common denominator on these thick =
oils/pourable greases is that they meet the requirements of&nbsp; =
<b>NLGI 00</b> <span style=3D'color:black;background:white'>standard =
(NLGI is National Lubricating Grease Institute).&nbsp; This topic is a =
common one in the old car world with folks like us. The results of the =
use of this product, mainly lack of leaks on old steering boxes, is =
mentioned on many sites. So if you have an very old Chevy or a AH this =
stuff is helpful. Not saying that a properly repaired steering box =
can=E2=80=99t be nearly leak free but for most of us this stuff will =
make the situation much better. Don=E2=80=99t let the term grease deter =
your use.&nbsp; It still flows to all the places that need lubrication =
but resists leaking out.&nbsp;&nbsp; By the way there are lots of =
sources for this stuff under many name brands and retailers.&nbsp; NAPA, =
John Deere and a multitude of others.&nbsp; Use the NLGI 00 specs to =
find supplier near you.<o:p></o:p></span></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'color:black;background:white'>Perry</span><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-US>Sent from <a =
href=3D"https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=3D550986";>Mail</a> for =
Windows 10<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm =
0cm 0cm'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span lang=3DEN-US>From: =
</span></b><span lang=3DEN-US><a =
href=3D"mailto:austin.healey@gmail.com";>Chris Dimmock</a><br><b>Sent: =
</b>Saturday, January 25, 2020 6:33 PM<br><b>To: </b><a =
href=3D"mailto:roggrace@telus.net";>Roger Grace</a><br><b>Cc: </b><a =
href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";>Austin Healey</a><br><b>Subject: =
</b>Re: [Healeys] Steering Box Questions<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US>Penrite comes in grease gun =
cartridges.&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-US>I replace the filler with a 1/4 bsp nipple to =
fill<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US><a =
href=3D"https://www.penriteoil.com.au/assets/pis_pdfs/STEERING%20BOX%20LU=
BE.pdf">https://www.penriteoil.com.au/assets/pis_pdfs/STEERING%20BOX%20LU=
BE.pdf</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span lang=3DEN-US><br>On 26 Jan 2020, at =
6:18 am, Roger Grace &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:roggrace@telus.net";>roggrace@telus.net</a>&gt; =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US>Two questions for the more =
experienced among us ...<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US>My BJ8 steering box is leaking. =
>From the front cover and more significantly from the =
shaft.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div></div></blockquote><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div></body></html>
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