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Re: [Healeys] Fuel Line BSPP Olive and Nut

To: Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.net>, Harold Manifold <manifold@telus.net>, simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Fuel Line BSPP Olive and Nut
From: Curtis Arndt <cnaarndt@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 9 Feb 2020 18:16:04 -0800
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Harold,

*BSPP* or British Standard Pipe Parallel is one of the five basic
"Whitworth" Thread Form fasteners used on Austin Healeys.  The other four
include in the order of most to least prevalent...* BSF* (British Standard
Fine),  *BSW* (British Standard Whitworth), *BSPT* (British Standard Pipe
Tapered), and lastly  *BSB* (British Standard Brass).

Whitworth fasteners are those fasteners that by definition (The British
Standards) have a 55 degree thread pitch angle versus the 60 degree thread
pitch angle of most other fasteners.  Also the TPI or (Threads Per Inch)
are in most, BUT NOT ALL cases different from their UNF/UNC counterparts.
Finally the hex sizes are different but contrary to popular belief, it is
NOT the head size that determines whether a fastener is Whitworth or not,
it is in fact the thread pitch angle of 55 degrees (as previously stated).


Cheers,

Curt

On Sun, Feb 9, 2020 at 5:52 PM Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.net> wrote:

> This guy might be able to help:
>
> https://www.sufuelpump.com
>
> There's no olives on my BJ8 pump--I've changed it out many times--and I
> don't recall one on my BN2, either (and I don't see one in the Moss
> catalog).  Where does this olive go?
>
> Bob
>
>
> On 2/9/2020 4:05 PM, simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com wrote:
>
> See :-
>
> http://sucarb.co.uk/catalogsearch/result/?q=olive
>
> Could it be item AUA 1486?
>
> If you were feeling sneaky, you could ring them up and check out the item.
> Then, armed with precise details, buy it locally.
>
> Simon
>
>
>
> *From:* Healeys <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net>
> <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net> *On Behalf Of *Harold Manifold
> *Sent:* 09 February 2020 23:05
> *To:* Healey List <healeys@autox.team.net> <healeys@autox.team.net>
> *Subject:* [Healeys] Fuel Line BSPP Olive and Nut
>
>
>
> Hello,
>
>
>
> I made a new fuel line for my Mk1 BT7 from 5/16" copper nickel tubing. I
> am having trouble finding the proper olive and nut to connect to the fuel
> pump. Picture attached. Based on measurements of the olive and nut for the
> fuel line between the pump and the tank the size is BSPP 1/4" x 5/16". I am
> not completely familiar with BSPP fittings but I know they have their own
> unique seat angle which is why I don't want to mix and match.
>
>
>
> Any recommendations for a source for these fittings?
>
>
>
> Thanks... Harold
>
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Harold,<div><br></div><div><b>BSPP</b> or British Standard=
 Pipe Parallel is one of the five basic &quot;Whitworth&quot; Thread Form f=
asteners used on Austin Healeys.=C2=A0 The other four include in the order =
of most to least prevalent...<b> BSF</b> (British Standard Fine),=C2=A0

<b>BSW</b> (British Standard Whitworth), <b>BSPT</b> (British Standard Pipe=
 Tapered), and lastly=C2=A0

<b>BSB</b> (British Standard Brass).</div><div><br></div><div>Whitworth fas=
teners are those fasteners that by definition (The British Standards) have =
a 55 degree thread pitch angle versus the 60 degree thread pitch angle of m=
ost other fasteners.=C2=A0 Also the TPI or (Threads Per Inch) are in most, =
BUT NOT ALL cases different from their UNF/UNC counterparts.=C2=A0 Finally =
the hex sizes are different but contrary to popular belief, it is NOT the h=
ead size that determines whether a fastener is Whitworth or not, it is in f=
act the thread pitch angle of 55 degrees (as previously stated).=C2=A0 =C2=
=A0 =C2=A0</div><div><br></div><div>Cheers,</div><div><br></div><div>Curt=
=C2=A0=C2=A0</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" cla=
ss=3D"gmail_attr">On Sun, Feb 9, 2020 at 5:52 PM Bob Spidell &lt;<a href=3D=
"mailto:bspidell@comcast.net";>bspidell@comcast.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div>=
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-=
left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
 =20
   =20
 =20
  <div>
    This guy might be able to help:<br>
    <br>
    <a href=3D"https://www.sufuelpump.com"; target=3D"_blank">https://www.su=
fuelpump.com</a><br>
    <br>
    There&#39;s no olives on my BJ8 pump--I&#39;ve changed it out many
    times--and I don&#39;t recall one on my BN2, either (and I don&#39;t se=
e one
    in the Moss catalog).=C2=A0 Where does this olive go?<br>
    <br>
    Bob<br>
    <br>
    <br>
    <div>On 2/9/2020 4:05 PM,
      <a href=3D"mailto:simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com"; target=3D"_blank=
">simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com</a> wrote:<br>
    </div>
    <blockquote type=3D"cite">
     =20
     =20
     =20
      <div>
        <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span>See
            :-<u></u><u></u></span></p>
        <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span><a href=3D"http://sucarb.co.uk/catalog=
search/result/?q=3Dolive" target=3D"_blank">http://sucarb.co.uk/catalogsear=
ch/result/?q=3Dolive</a><u></u><u></u></span></p>
        <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span>Could
            it be item AUA 1486?<u></u><u></u></span></p>
        <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span>If
            you were feeling sneaky, you could ring them up and check
            out the item. Then, armed with precise details, buy it
            locally.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
        <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span>Simon<u></u><u></u></span></p>
        <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
        <div>
          <div style=3D"border-right:none;border-bottom:none;border-left:no=
ne;border-top:1pt solid rgb(225,225,225);padding:3pt 0cm 0cm">
            <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span lang=3D"EN-US">From:</span></b>=
<span lang=3D"EN-US"> Healeys
                <a href=3D"mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net"; target=3D=
"_blank">&lt;healeys-bounces@autox.team.net&gt;</a> <b>On Behalf Of
                </b>Harold Manifold<br>
                <b>Sent:</b> 09 February 2020 23:05<br>
                <b>To:</b> Healey List <a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team=
.net" target=3D"_blank">&lt;healeys@autox.team.net&gt;</a><br>
                <b>Subject:</b> [Healeys] Fuel Line BSPP Olive and Nut<u></=
u><u></u></span></p>
          </div>
        </div>
        <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
        <div>
          <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:=
Arial,sans-serif">Hello,</span><u></u><u></u></p>
        </div>
        <div>
          <p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p>
        </div>
        <div>
          <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:=
Arial,sans-serif">I
              made a new fuel line for my Mk1 BT7 from 5/16&quot; copper
              nickel tubing. I am having trouble finding the proper
              olive and nut to connect to the fuel pump. Picture
              attached. Based on measurements of the olive and nut for
              the fuel line between the pump and the tank the size is
              BSPP 1/4&quot; x 5/16&quot;. I am not completely familiar wit=
h BSPP
              fittings but I know they have their own unique seat angle
              which is why I don&#39;t want to mix and match.</span><u></u>=
<u></u></p>
        </div>
        <div>
          <p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p>
        </div>
        <div>
          <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:=
Arial,sans-serif">Any
              recommendations for a source for these fittings?</span><u></u=
><u></u></p>
        </div>
        <div>
          <p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p>
        </div>
        <div>
          <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:=
Arial,sans-serif">Thanks...
              Harold</span><u></u><u></u></p>
        </div>
      </div>
      <br>
    </blockquote>
    <br>
  </div>

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