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Re: [Healeys] Oil Pressure

To: richard mayor <boyracer466@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Oil Pressure
From: Michael Salter <michaelsalter@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 11 May 2020 07:50:49 -0400
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Richard is,as usual, absolutely correct in that the lifters are very
slightly convex on the base however it is not that which makes them rotate
rather that the fact that the lifter bores are slightly displaced from the
centerline on the cam lobes.
In many Healey engines that I have disassembled however it is quite
apparent that at least some of the lifters have not been rotating as
evidenced by the rectangular shape of the witness mark on the base. By
measuring the position of the rectangle one can confirm that the
displacement is about 1mm as I recall.
I've never been able to determine why some lifters fail to rotate as they
seen quite free in the bore.
Regarding the idea that the engine has to be turning at 1500 RPM to throw
oil up to the cam I totally disagree with that.
Even 600 RPM is 10 rotations a second ....  hmmmm.

M

On Sun, May 10, 2020, 7:25 PM richard mayor, <boyracer466@gmail.com> wrote:

> The lifter faces are not flat. They have a crown so they rotate in the
> bores as the cam lobes move across them. At low RPMs the lifters do not
> rotate so much.  It is absolutely essential on initial start up that the
> lifters are rotating so the cam and lifters can properly bed in. This is
> accomplished if the engine is reving at least 1500 RPM.
>
> On Sun, May 10, 2020 at 2:24 PM Michael MacLean <rrengineer.mike@att.net>
> wrote:
>
>> Why do I keep hearing on initial start up immediately get it up to approx
>> 2000 rpm and run it 20 minutes to bed in the lifters and cam.  Old wives
>> tale.  I have seen it done.
>> Mike MacLean
>>
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<div dir=3D"auto">Richard is,as usual, absolutely correct in that the lifte=
rs are very slightly convex on the base however it is not that which makes =
them rotate rather that the fact that the lifter bores are slightly displac=
ed from the centerline on the cam lobes.=C2=A0<div dir=3D"auto">In many Hea=
ley engines that I have disassembled however it is quite apparent that at l=
east some of the lifters have not been rotating as evidenced by the rectang=
ular shape of the witness mark on the base. By measuring the position of th=
e rectangle one can confirm that the displacement is about 1mm as I recall.=
=C2=A0</div><div dir=3D"auto">I&#39;ve never been able to determine why som=
e lifters fail to rotate as they seen quite free in the bore.</div><div dir=
=3D"auto">Regarding the idea that the engine has to be turning at 1500 RPM =
to throw oil up to the cam I totally disagree=C2=A0with that.=C2=A0</div><d=
iv dir=3D"auto">Even 600 RPM is 10 rotations a second ....=C2=A0 hmmmm.</di=
v><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">M</div></div><br><div class=
=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sun, May 10, 2020=
, 7:25 PM richard mayor, &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:boyracer466@gmail.com";>boyra=
cer466@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" =
style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><di=
v dir=3D"ltr">The lifter faces are not flat. They have a crown so they rota=
te in the bores as the cam lobes move across them. At low RPMs the lifters =
do not rotate so much.=C2=A0 It is absolutely essential on initial start up=
 that the lifters are rotating so the cam and lifters can properly bed in. =
This is accomplished if the engine is reving at least 1500 RPM.<br></div><b=
r><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sun, =
May 10, 2020 at 2:24 PM Michael MacLean &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:rrengineer.mi=
ke@att.net" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">rrengineer.mike@att.net</a=
>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px=
 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Why=
 do I keep hearing on initial start up immediately get it up to approx 2000=
 rpm and run it 20 minutes to bed in the lifters and cam.=C2=A0 Old wives t=
ale.=C2=A0 I have seen it done.<div id=3D"m_1774146575436657140gmail-m_-125=
2571381885206011gmail-m_-3196108504424182911yMail_cursorElementTracker_1589=
145805313">Mike MacLean<br><br><div id=3D"m_1774146575436657140gmail-m_-125=
2571381885206011gmail-m_-3196108504424182911ymail_android_signature"><a id=
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)"> <div>On Sun, May 10, 2020 at 2:09 PM, Michael Salter</div><div>&lt;<a h=
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