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Re: [Healeys] Fuel pump points

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Subject: Re: [Healeys] Fuel pump points
From: Kees Oudesluijs <coudesluijs@chello.nl>
Date: Sun, 31 May 2020 15:48:01 +0200
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Better not use the diodes. Use the old fashioned capacitors or 18V 
transils (or both) these are fitted over the points.

Sometimes SU pumps will not work after being rebuild. This is often due 
to incorrect setting of the points of diaphragm, try slightly reducing 
the given 0,9mm setting between spring blade and top of the Bakelite 
bridge. The lower points are set to 2,3mm. Sometimes it is caused by a 
stiff membrane. The original membrane consists of three layers, two 
reinforced rubber and one Mylar between the petrol and one of the rubber 
membranes. These membrane may stick together after many years and thus 
rendering the membrane rather stiff. Prise the membranes apart very 
carefully, if the Mylar membrane splits the membrane is finished. Clean 
thoroughly between the layers with brake cleaner, let dry completely and 
apply a dusting of talcum powder sparingly. This will make the diaphragm 
nice and supple again.

Kees Oudesluijs


Op 31-5-2020 om 15:12 schreef simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com:
>
> About a week ago I posted a query which was to the effect, ?How long 
> might one expect a set of (proper Burlen) points for an SU pump to last??
>
> ?How long is a piece of string??, I hear you say.
>
> So, the reason for the original query was this:-  Not withstanding 
> that they were not Taiwanese and that I reckon they were correctly 
> installed, I think that they wore out rather quickly despite both sets 
> being protected by Burlen supplied diodes.
>
> Replacing the points seemed, at first glance, to be harder than I 
> remembered from previous times??I could get both sets running on the 
> bench. With four plus one extra holes after ?throw-over(?)?. But, once 
> in the car, one pump would only work for a while?.totally haphazard.
>
> Eventually I turned to the wiring and terminals at the ?on, off, on? 
> switch.:-
>
> On?.left hand half
>
> Off?.neither half
>
> On?.right hand half
>
> The RHS terminals were intermittent. Ie losing continuity hence 
> cutting off power to the RHS.
>
> QUESTION:- OK, assuming you?re still reading, could the problems 
> within the switch translate to sparking and issues within the pumps? 
> points? And thus cause them to wear out so quickly?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Simon
>
>
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    <p>Better not use the diodes. Use the old fashioned capacitors or
      18V transils (or both) these are fitted over the points.</p>
    <p>Sometimes SU pumps will not work after being rebuild. This is
      often due to incorrect setting of the points of diaphragm, try
      slightly reducing the given 0,9mm setting between spring blade and
      top of the Bakelite bridge. The lower points are set to 2,3mm.
      Sometimes it is caused by a stiff membrane. The original membrane
      consists of three layers, two reinforced rubber and one Mylar
      between the petrol and one of the rubber membranes. These membrane
      may stick together after many years and thus rendering the
      membrane rather stiff. Prise the membranes apart very carefully,
      if the Mylar membrane splits the membrane is finished. Clean
      thoroughly between the layers with brake cleaner, let dry
      completely and apply a dusting of talcum powder sparingly. This
      will make the diaphragm nice and supple again.</p>
    <p>Kees Oudesluijs<br>
    </p>
    <p><br>
    </p>
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        <p class="MsoNormal">About a week ago I posted a query which was
          to the effect, ?How long might one expect a set of (proper
          Burlen) points for an SU pump to last?? <o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">?How long is a piece of string??, I hear
          you say.<o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">So, the reason for the original query was
          this:-  Not withstanding that they were not Taiwanese and that
          I reckon they were correctly installed, I think that they wore
          out rather quickly despite both sets being protected by Burlen
          supplied diodes.<o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">Replacing the points seemed, at first
          glance, to be harder than I remembered from previous times??I
          could get both sets running on the bench. With four plus one
          extra holes after ?throw-over(?)?. But, once in the car, one
          pump would only work for a while?.totally haphazard.<o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">Eventually I turned to the wiring and
          terminals at the ?on, off, on? switch.:-<o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">On?.left hand half<o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">Off?.neither half<o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">On?.right hand half<o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">The RHS terminals were intermittent. Ie
          losing continuity hence cutting off power to the RHS.<o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">QUESTION:- OK, assuming you?re still
          reading, could the problems within the switch translate to
          sparking and issues within the pumps? points? And thus cause
          them to wear out so quickly?<o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">Thanks,<o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">Simon<o:p></o:p></p>
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