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Re: [Healeys] Fwd: HD8 dashpot damper part #s

To: Roger Grace <roggrace@telus.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Fwd: HD8 dashpot damper part #s
From: richard mayor via Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>
Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2020 11:07:07 -0700
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Are the brass caps vented?  In my earlier post about the various caps I had
on some sets of HD8s, one of the caps was AUC 8114.  A responder pointed
out that that cap came on a tri-carb set up. Looking more closely I noticed
there was no vent hole in that cap. Why?  Because the carbs on the tri-carb
set up had vents in the dashpots. HD8 dashpots are not vented so the cap
should be to be vented.
I'm just guessing, but would happen if a non vented cap is put on an HD8
carb?  Would the oil get sucked out of the carb?

On Sun, Jul 19, 2020 at 10:54 AM Roger Grace via Healeys <
healeys@autox.team.net> wrote:

> A few years ago as my BJ8 carbs had been so molested over the years by
> numerous PO's bought a pair of new HD8 from Burlein.
> They came with brass capped dampers.
> For the life of me, cannot see any part numbers on the dampers
> I am curious/suspicious as seem to have to top up more frequently than I
> remember with previous SU cars.
> At least after every 2 tanks of gas driving time.
> Not accurately checked standing time with no driving.
> Where does the oil go ? Makes no difference what grade that I use.
> Thoughts ?
> rg
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Kees Oudesluijs via Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>
> To: healeys@autox.team.net
> Sent: Thu, 02 Jul 2020 02:17:15 -0600 (MDT)
> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Fwd: HD8 dashpot damper part #s
>
> The book is free of charge from Burlen/SU. You just pay the
> shipping.
>
> Kees Oudesluijs
>
>
>
> Op 2-7-2020 om 01:21 schreef Mark
> Donaldson:
>
> Richard
> and Perry,
>
>
>
> Both
> of my S.U. books show *AUC8112* as the only damper for
> the BJ8
>
> *AUC8114*
> is for the Mk II tri-carb and ALL of the Sprites with the
> exception of the Bugeye (S.U. calls it =E2=80=98Frogeye=E2=80=99 as do yo=
u
> British listers) which has *AUC8103*
>
>
>
> *AUC8115*
> is found in the HD8s fitted to E-type Jags and the 4 litre
> Jensen 541 from 1960 =E2=80=93 1963.
>
>
>
> For
> you Anoraks out there, my main S.U. book by S.U. is called
> SPARE PARTS AND SPECIFICATION CATALOGUE.  It runs to 179
> pages and is spiral bound.
>
> I
> got it at the Goodwood Revival back in 2015.  It is a very
> useful little handbook.
>
> It
> has everything you wanted to know about S.U. carburettors,
> but were too afraid to ask.  \uD83D\uDE0A
>
>
>
> Mark
>
> Ardmore
>
> NZ
>
>
>
> *From:* Perry <healeyguy@aol.com> <healeyguy@aol.com>
> *Sent:* Thursday, 2 July 2020 5:25 a.m.
> *To:* richard mayor <boyracer466@gmail.com> <boyracer466@gmail.com>;
> healeys <healeys@autox.team.net> <healeys@autox.team.net>
> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Fwd: HD8 dashpot damper
> part #s
>
>
>
> The carbs I have on hand
> have the most common, and perhaps the correct piston rod
> AUC8112.  Also found AUC8114.  My factory 3000/BJ8 parts
> book covering the HD8 carbs has conveniently disappeared for
> the moment so I can not verify what part the factory called
> for.  The weight of the piston body (very small weight at
> the end of the damper rod) should not have a bearing on the
> operation as it can only move vertically 1/16 inch and is
> otherwise fixed in place. I checked the diameter of the
> piston body on several and they all appear to be the same.
> The diameter would seem to be much more important for proper
> carb operation.
>
> I had asked the SU
> dealer in England for guidance for use of the different
> numbered parts but have not heard back, thus this convoluted
> email to the list.
>
> P
>
>
>
> Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=3D550986> for
> Windows 10
>
>
>
> *From: *richard mayor via Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>
> *Sent: *Wednesday, July 1, 2020 12:34 PM
> *To: *healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>
> *Subject: *[Healeys] Fwd: HD8 dashpot damper part #s
>
>
>
> From the various
> responses I received it seems that AUC8112 is the correct
> damper for the HD8s.  The main difference between the
> dampers that I can observe appears to be the size of the
> very small weight at the end of the damper rod.
>
>
>
> ----------
> Forwarded message ---------
>
> From: *richard mayor* <boyracer466@gmail.com>
>
> Date: Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at 6:10 PM
>
> Subject: HD8 dashpot damper part #s
>
> To: healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>
>
>
>
> I have 3 sets of HD8
> carburetors all with different dashpot dampers.  AUC8112,
> AUC8114 and AUC8115.  What is the correct damper for a BJ8?
>
>
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Are the brass caps vented?=C2=A0 In my earlier post a=
bout the various caps I had on some sets of HD8s, one of the caps was AUC 8=
114.=C2=A0 A responder pointed out that that cap came on a tri-carb set up.=
 Looking more closely I noticed there was no vent hole in that cap. Why?=C2=
=A0 Because the carbs on the tri-carb set up had vents in the dashpots. HD8=
 dashpots are not vented so the cap should be to be vented.</div><div>I&#39=
;m just guessing, but would happen if a non vented cap is put on an HD8 car=
b?=C2=A0 Would the oil get sucked out of the carb? </div></div><br><div cla=
ss=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sun, Jul 19, 20=
20 at 10:54 AM Roger Grace via Healeys &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.=
team.net">healeys@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=
=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rg=
b(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><div>A few years ago as my BJ8 carbs =
had been so molested over the years by numerous PO&#39;s bought a pair of n=
ew HD8 from Burlein.<br></div><div>They came with brass capped dampers.<br>=
</div><div>For the life of me, cannot see any part numbers on the dampers<b=
r></div><div>I am curious/suspicious as seem to have to top up more frequen=
tly than I remember with previous SU cars.<br></div><div>At least after eve=
ry 2 tanks of gas driving time.<br></div><div>Not accurately checked standi=
ng time with no driving.<br></div><div>Where does the oil go ? Makes no dif=
ference what grade that I use.<br></div><div>Thoughts ?<br></div><div>rg<br=
></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>----- Original Message -----<br>F=
rom: Kees Oudesluijs via Healeys &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.n=
et" target=3D"_blank">healeys@autox.team.net</a>&gt;<br>To: <a href=3D"mail=
to:healeys@autox.team.net" target=3D"_blank">healeys@autox.team.net</a><br>=
Sent: Thu, 02 Jul 2020 02:17:15 -0600 (MDT)<br>Subject: Re: [Healeys] Fwd: =
HD8 dashpot damper part #s<br></div><div><br></div><p>The book is free of c=
harge from Burlen/SU. You just pay the<br> shipping.</p><p>Kees Oudesluijs<=
/p><p><br></p><p><br></p><div>Op 2-7-2020 om 01:21 schreef Mark<br> Donalds=
on:<br></div><blockquote><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-si=
ze:10pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Ric=
hard<br> and Perry,</span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-si=
ze:10pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">=C2=
=A0</span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-fam=
ily:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Both<br> of my S.U.=
 books show <b>AUC8112</b> as the only damper for<br> the BJ8</span></p><p =
class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:&quot;Taho=
ma&quot;,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">AUC8114</span></b><span style=3D"=
font-size:10pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,12=
5)"><br> is for the Mk II tri-carb and ALL of the Sprites with the<br> exce=
ption of the Bugeye (S.U. calls it =E2=80=98Frogeye=E2=80=99 as do you<br> =
British listers) which has <b>AUC8103</b></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=
<b><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,sans-serif;=
color:rgb(31,73,125)">=C2=A0</span></b></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span =
style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,sans-serif;color:rgb=
(31,73,125)">AUC8115</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:&q=
uot;Tahoma&quot;,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"><br> is found in the HD8s=
 fitted to E-type Jags and the 4 litre<br> Jensen 541 from 1960 =E2=80=93 1=
963.</span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-fa=
mily:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">=C2=A0</span></p><=
p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:&quot;Tahom=
a&quot;,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">For<br> you Anoraks out there, my =
main S.U. book by S.U. is called<br> SPARE PARTS AND SPECIFICATION CATALOGU=
E.=C2=A0 It runs to 179<br> pages and is spiral bound.</span></p><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;=
,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">I<br> got it at the Goodwood Revival back=
 in 2015.=C2=A0 It is a very<br> useful little handbook.</span></p><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;=
,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">It<br> has everything you wanted to know =
about S.U. carburettors,<br> but were too afraid to ask.=C2=A0 </span><span=
 style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:&quot;Segoe UI\00003cbr\00003e        =
     Emoji&quot;,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">\uD83D\uDE0A</span><span =
style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,sans-serif;color:rgb=
(31,73,125)"></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10p=
t;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">=C2=A0</s=
pan></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:&q=
uot;Tahoma&quot;,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Mark</span></p><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;=
,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Ardmore</span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=
<span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,sans-serif;col=
or:rgb(31,73,125)">NZ</span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color=
:rgb(31,73,125)">=C2=A0</span></p><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span=
 lang=3D"EN-US">From:</span></b><span lang=3D"EN-US"> Perry <a href=3D"mail=
to:healeyguy@aol.com" target=3D"_blank">&lt;healeyguy@aol.com&gt;</a><br><b=
>Sent:</b> Thursday, 2 July 2020 5:25 a.m.<br><b>To:</b> richard mayor <a h=
ref=3D"mailto:boyracer466@gmail.com"; target=3D"_blank">&lt;boyracer466@gmai=
l.com&gt;</a>;<br> healeys <a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; target=
=3D"_blank">&lt;healeys@autox.team.net&gt;</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Heal=
eys] Fwd: HD8 dashpot damper<br> part #s</span></p></div></div><p class=3D"=
MsoNormal">=C2=A0</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">The carbs =
I have on hand<br> have the most common, and perhaps the correct piston rod=
=C2=A0<br> AUC8112.=C2=A0 Also found AUC8114.=C2=A0 My factory 3000/BJ8 par=
ts<br> book covering the HD8 carbs has conveniently disappeared for<br> the=
 moment so I can not verify what part the factory called<br> for.=C2=A0 The=
 weight of the piston body (very small weight at<br> the end of the damper =
rod) should not have a bearing on the<br> operation as it can only move ver=
tically 1/16 inch and is<br> otherwise fixed in place. I checked the diamet=
er of the<br> piston body on several and they all appear to be the same.<br=
> The diameter would seem to be much more important for proper<br> carb ope=
ration. </span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">I had asked =
the SU<br> dealer in England for guidance for use of the different<br> numb=
ered parts but have not heard back, thus this convoluted<br> email to the l=
ist.</span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">P</span></p><p c=
lass=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">=C2=A0</span></p><p class=3D"MsoNor=
mal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Sent from <a href=3D"https://go.microsoft.com/fwl=
ink/?LinkId=3D550986" target=3D"_blank">Mail</a> for Windows 10</span></p><=
p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">=C2=A0</span></p><div><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span lang=3D"EN-US">From: </span></b><span lang=3D"EN-US=
"><a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank">richard mayor=
 via Healeys</a><br><b>Sent: </b>Wednesday, July 1, 2020 12:34 PM<br><b>To:=
 </b><a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank">healeys</a=
><br><b>Subject: </b>[Healeys] Fwd: HD8 dashpot damper part #s</span></p></=
div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">=C2=A0</span></p><div><p cl=
ass=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">From the various<br> responses I rec=
eived it seems that AUC8112 is the correct<br> damper for the HD8s.=C2=A0 T=
he main difference between the<br> dampers that I can observe appears to be=
 the size of the<br> very small weight at the end of the damper rod. </span=
></p><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">=C2=A0</span></p><div=
><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">----------<br> Forwarded =
message ---------<br></span></p><div><br></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span=
 lang=3D"EN-US">From: <b>richard mayor</b> &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:boyracer46=
6@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">boyracer466@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br></span></p>=
<div><br></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Date: Tue, Jun 3=
0, 2020 at 6:10 PM<br></span></p><div><br></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><spa=
n lang=3D"EN-US">Subject: HD8 dashpot damper part #s<br></span></p><div><br=
></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">To: healeys &lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank">healeys@autox.team.net=
</a>&gt;</span></p></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12pt=
"><span lang=3D"EN-US">=C2=A0</span></p></div></div></div><p class=3D"MsoNo=
rmal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">I have 3 sets of HD8<br> carburetors all with di=
fferent dashpot dampers.=C2=A0 AUC8112,<br> AUC8114 and AUC8115.=C2=A0 What=
 is the correct damper for a BJ8?</span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span la=
ng=3D"EN-US">=C2=A0</span></p></div><br><fieldset></fieldset><pre>_________=
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