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Re: Fossil fuel/Dinosaur oil?? l-o-n-g......

To: "Don Kerr" <dkveuro@pop.flash.net>, <energia@energy.ca.gov>,
Subject: Re: Fossil fuel/Dinosaur oil?? l-o-n-g......
From: "John Beckett" <landspeedracer@email.msn.com>
Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2000 08:28:54 -0400
Don

Interesting thought. Heard a comment from a world renowned scientist who
says some of our explorer space probes have found, naturally occurring,
hydrocarbons in the atmospheres of other planets. Guess when we nail down
space travel we won't ever have to worry about gasoline. But if we think the
price is high how, imagine what it will be if the crude comes from Jupiter.

John Beckett, LSR #79

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From: "Don Kerr" <dkveuro@pop.flash.net>
To: <energia@energy.ca.gov>; "brit cars"
<british-cars-owner@autox.team.net>; "Don Stecklein"
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Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2000 1:38 AM
Subject: Fossil fuel/Dinosaur oil?? l-o-n-g......


> Hi people, the interest in this so called 'Fossil Fuel 'theory has got
> me thinking. For more than thirty years I have been an automotive
> engineer. During that time I've traveled to many places and flown
> hundreds of thousands of miles, mostly powered by oil derivative fuels,
> of one sort or another. Now here's the thing.........
> Q. Just how can you say that the oil deposits we drill for and use are
> all from old dead animals.? Come on now, just think this out for a
> minute. We now have large oil companies finding and producing oil in
> nearly every continent of the globe and in every sea and some lakes too.
> The projected life of this fuel is being constantly revised and current
> predictions indicate another thirty years at least, at predicted levels
> of consumption. Total estimated deposits now at " 2,272.5 billiom
> barrels" (That's still down there!)...........I quote from,
> C Masters,E Attanasi and D Root in their 'World Petroleum Assesment and
> Analysis" published 1994 .
>          Ok? Now, lets do some careful reasoning on the origins of this
> oil that obviously is finite. The Energy organizations says or believe
> that this fuel is a deposit made by rotting animal carcasses over
> billions of years which became buried and eventually turned into oil,
> this, including some vegetation,starting some 65 million years ago. We
> know that there were some very large animals alive at the time you claim
> this process started, judging by the size of those I've seen in the
> Historical museums of the world, some weighed in at 3 to 4 tons or nine
> thousand pounds or so, if we include the sea life too, especially the
> whales, the amount of carcasses to produce this amount of oil is on the
> order of impossible. "Why"? you say? Lets see if some imaginary
> projection can make a realistic estimate of the amount of flesh to do
> this.
> Shall we say that the average weight of a carcass, is, for the sake of
> trying to prove this theory, about
> three thousand pounds, allowing for smaller and larger to even out.
> Now, as we know, the mass of all living creatures is made up of 70 to
> 75% water, which obviously will not make oil. We also can safety say
> that the bones of these creatures will also, due to their being calcium,
> not contribute to the oil mass, as bones, in most animals is often 20%
> or more of body weight.
> So let us assume the total weight of an animal, less the non oil
> producing matter is for the sake of proving this theory, around six
> hundred pounds, but, oh! I forgot, there is also included in this weight
> around 50% of matter that could never produce oil due to the chemical
> composition that chemical physics says is a water soluble material. Wow!
> now what? OK. Let's assume that one hundred
> pounds of each animal is oil producing, but then again the
> paleontologists tell use that 'Sue" is a flesh eating animal, so now we
> have less flesh to make oil. That is, we have to dial in the scavenger
> beasts as clean up crew like the vultures today,
> mmmmm, that kinda screws up the calculations a bit .........well Ok,
> still we can assume at least twenty pounds of dead weight is about right
> per animal, yes? So, how many twenty pound lumps of flesh would make a
> gallon of oil? The other thing of course is the stuff has to get from
> ground level to a thousand feet or more under the surface, become
> compressed and heated and stay cooking for 60 million years, whilst all
> the while, so the geophysicist tell us, the crust of the earth or
> tectonic plates are scooting around, squishing under each other and
> generally not staying still, and even now are still yet on the move.
> So, as I was saying, how many twenty pound lumps of flesh make a gallon
> of oil?
> Well we all know that you can't get something from nothing so we must
> say that of that twenty pounds maybe 10% will turn into oil. So now we
> are down to 10% of twenty pounds which is errrrr.....TWO Pounds per
> animal.
> And just how much oil did you say the earth contained? Daily consumption
> world wide is if I remember something in the order of 84 million barrels
> per day. That's fifty five gallons a barrel, or eight pounds of oil per
> gallon or four hundred and forty pounds per barrel. Lets say that of the
> TWO lb. only a half a pound actually becomes oil. That means eight
> hundred and eighty animals make up ONE barrel, so we can now say that
> taking in to account a mass loss due to natural erosion, scattering,
> eaten by scavengers, fly larvae grubs, macro biological degradation,
> that we have to up the anti to maybe one thousand or even two thousand
> animals per barrel.
> Let's be conservative and say fifteen hundred animals per barrel, and
> even at that I'm giving a lot away.
> So, 84 million barrels a day, that's for how many years? and yes I know
> vegetation is in the equation too.
> Now......84 million x 55 x 1500 = 6930000000. oops, my calculator won't
> go that high, and this is ONE DAYS CONSUMPTION, now come on, who's
> kidin' who here? And this is projected for another 30 years!!!!!!!!!
> You'll excuse me if I believe that oil deposits are a naturally
> occurring phenomena, with nothing to do with
> DINASAURS'....Even throwing in the trees and plants, this is a
> stretch.....There were never enough of any of this stuff to make all
> this oil/gas/methane/pentane/benzene/heptane, etc,etc. You don't suppose
> that this oil lubricates the motion of the world and one day the planet
> will seize up chucking everything to the east that's not nailed
> down........?
>
> .........DK...........just a thought.




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