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Re: No-scoop bonnet

To: tjsouz@epix.net
Subject: Re: No-scoop bonnet
From: Robert Alexander <ralex@unm.edu>
Date: Wed, 6 May 1998 16:14:04 -0900 (PDT)
Tony,
        I was faced with the same problem in general last fall when I was 
trying to find some way to put air cleaners on my 67 +4 with a TR4 
engine.  Got all sorts of good advice about women's underware (remember 
that, John B.?) and finally found an answer at my local LBC mechanic.  He 
suggested swapping my long-tube TR4 manifold with a shorter TR3 (which 
he just happened to have) and stay with my short-body SU's (you have the 
short manifold, but longer-bodied SUs).  He then suggested using RamFLow 
air cleaners.  They have a crushable expanded steel cover over a foam 
filter, and with just a little reshaping I got them to fit under the 
existing bonnet.  If you don't need air cleaners (we do in New Mexico) 
then your that far ahead, but I think they look very vintage, almost 
like they came off an old British bike, and fit the Morgan character.  
Just an opinion.

Bob Alexander
67 +4

On Wed, 6 May 1998 tjsouz@epix.net wrote:

> Date: Wed, 06 May 1998 08:11:50 -0700
> From: tjsouz@epix.net
> To: FPS3@aol.com
> Cc: morgans@Autox.Team.Net
> Subject: No-scoop bonnet
> 
> Hi Fred et al,
>       The subject is choice of carburetor(s) for my flat rad 4 seater
> project.  Having progressed to the point of being able to hang the
> radiator and temporarily clamp the firewall and original scuttle, I can
> now see how thw bonnet will fit.  The good news is that new chassis
> length and engine position have worked out and the bonnet will fit fine
> in length.  The bad news is that the decision time to chop the right
> hand bonnet half for carburetor clearance is now at hand.  You see I
> have upgraded the engine to a TR-3 with its twin side draft SU
> carburetors and intake manifold.  The old Vanguard engine used a single
> downdraft which fit well inboard the bonnet.
> 
>       I would like to keep the original bonnet intact, thus hiding the engine
> upgrade to the casual observer.
> 
>       Now the engineering question.  Is there another manifold and carburetor
> combination for a TR-3 engine that will fit inside the bonnet?  And of
> course not sacrifice the added power capability of the TR-3. Maybe a
> downdraft 2 bbl Weber a la Ford Cortina or something.  A new intake
> manifold could be welded up from tubing.  Maybe there's a manifold
> available?  Has anyone pondered this problem or seen a solution?  I
> understand from Craig Seibert that Melvyn Rutter's flat rad four seater
> +4 (Beryl) goes like stink with its engine and suspension improvements. 
> Craig might have a picture of Beryl showing the starboard side, but so
> far hasen't been able to find it.  Perhaps Melvyn might have a published
> picture or account showing the bonnet/carburetor interface.  A photo in
> the M. Rutter ad shows a front 3/4 of Beryl but unfortunately for me
> it's the left front.
> 
>       If worse comes to terrible, of course, a hole could be punched and a
> SS-type scoop faired in, and although perfectly acceptable to Morgan
> standards, I would like to at least explore options that leave the
> bonnet  intact, maintain the vintage flat rad look and hide the "boiler
> room".
> 
>       Any suggestions, hints, references comments greatly appreciated.  It's
> a wonderful thing to have so many good Morgan people netted together
> with which to share these ideas.
> 
> Regards, Tony Souza
> 

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