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Re: [oletrucks] TF Front End Weight

To: "Jeffrey Engel" <jengel@ghnaes.com>,
Subject: Re: [oletrucks] TF Front End Weight
From: "R Welch" <rwelch@bartnet.net>
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 10:18:19 -0600
If I'm not mistaken, the engines on a stock MII were mounted directly over
the springs (that is the weight of the engines was centered on the springs).
The MII conversions generally will see the SBC or BBC positioned quite a bit
further back.  I don't have the links but I have read discussions where guys
have actually gone to the 4-cyl springs even with a BB because of the weight
setback.  I have a TCI MII conversion w/tube a-arms on my 56 Panel and I'm
going to run a BBC.  I got two sets of springs with it from the PO.  I think
I can find the spring ratings in my files at home - but my gut feeling is
the heavier springs of the two are going to be too stiff.  Unfortunately,
you may have to resort to trial and error to find the spring rate you
need/like.  You might want to discuss this with the vendor you bought your
conversion from.

-Bob
 55 Belair Post
 56 Cameo
 56 Panel
 54 5-window


----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeffrey Engel" <jengel@ghnaes.com>
To: "Oletrucks List" <oletrucks@autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 9:33 AM
Subject: RE: [oletrucks] TF Front End Weight


> I'm not planning on using coil overs.  Probably a stock shock to begin
with.
> I have access to a springs from a 4-cyl MII, an 8-cyl MII, and some HD
> springs.  From what you are saying, I'm guessing the HD springs are too
> stiff.
>
> If you look at the diagrams at Heidt's website, they show that an MII v8
> weighs 1850 lbs. at the front, and a Pinto 4-cyl weighs 1700 lbs. at the
> front.  If the Cameo weighs 3600 lbs., I would assume that the bulk of
that
> is on the front, it looks like the V8 springs would be the way to go.
>
> If I used the 4-cyl springs, is my suspension going to bottom out?  Or is
> the ride just going to be too soft and bouncy for my weight vehicle?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jeff Engel
> 1956 TF
> 1957 TF
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: R Welch [mailto:rwelch@bartnet.net]
> Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 9:05 AM
> To: Jeffrey Engel; Oletrucks List
> Subject: Re: [oletrucks] TF Front End Weight
>
>
> I've run 350, 450, and 550 lb springs in my coilovers on a 56.  The 550
> springs are way to stiff, there is virtually no give at all.  As for the
> other two rates, it all depends on where you want the ride height to be.
> Personally, I think in my case a 400 spring would be just about right.  I
> don't know the weight split front to back but the total weight is 3600#
with
> a Cameo bed.  One thing I discovered that tends to mask the spring rate is
> the shock rating (coilovers in my case).  I originally ran Carerra shock
> that were too stiff (seems like they were a 7 or 8 rating) and replaced
them
> with ProShocks (which I believe are 5 or 6).  This change made the 450
> springs feel pretty good - before with the 450s and Carerra's they were
too
> stiff and I thought it was the spring.
>
> -Bob
> 55 Belair Post
> 56 Cameo
> 56 Panel
> 54 5-window
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jeffrey Engel" <jengel@ghnaes.com>
> To: "Oletrucks List" <oletrucks@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 8:23 AM
> Subject: [oletrucks] TF Front End Weight
>
>
> > Does anyone know how the weight is balanced out front to back on a 1956,
> 1/2
> > ton, with a small block V8?  I am trying to decide on what springs to
run
> in
> > a MII IFS setup.  I need to know how much weight is on the front end to
> > select my spring rates.
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > Jeff Engel
> > 1956 TF
> > 1957 TF
> > oletrucks is devoted to Chevy and GM trucks built between 1941 and 1959
> oletrucks is devoted to Chevy and GM trucks built between 1941 and 1959
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