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Subject: Re: [oletrucks] Question - can a Chevy 250 inline be used to
From: "Steve Hanberg" <steve@OldSub.com>
Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2003 14:14:28 -0700
Well with the job now done, I can tell you that my buddy's '54 sitting on
the dolly felt easier to handle, and stop, than my '54 did sitting on a
trailer six months ago.

I pulled both with the same '72 Chevy 350/350 and both times the load was
more than enough to feel both pulling and stopping, but the heavy trailer
does make more difference.

One stretch of road was posted 40 mph, and I may never have reached that
speed, I certainly never exceeded it.  Stopping at lower speeds the extra
pivot doesn't seem to make much difference.  I think if I was planning a
longer trip with higher speeds I'd rather use a trailer with brakes.

We actually drove the '54 on and off the dolly, and perhaps could have
driven it the whole trip, but there were enough things not finished that
even a casual inspection by law enforcement could have been unpleasant.
Starting with none of the lights work...

----- Original Message -----
From: <mark@noakes.com>
To: <oletrucks@autox.team.net>
Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2003 9:44 AM
Subject: Re: [oletrucks] Question - can a Chevy 250 inline be used to tow
cars? Power ...


I think the idea is that the "package" weight using the dolly over the
trailer is
1000lbs less than using the trailer so the total mass is less and the
stopping momentum
is a little less, but you're correct on the extra hinge point quite possibly
nullifying
the supposed advantage.  The key  point is go more slowly than you would
otherwise and
keep as much distance ahead of you as possible to avoid hard braking if
possible...and
pray constantly when that is not an option...

Saying that, we've often used one of the two family single car trailers with
1/2 ton
pickups with 305 or 350 V8s but also have a 454SS in the family when
necessary.  The
305s both just have 2.73 gearing and do struggle when towing something as
large as an
old truck.  Never used a dolly.

Mark Noakes
Knoxville, TN

On Sat, 12 Jul 2003 11:44:59 EDT, Ie61pah@aol.com wrote:

>
> In a message dated 7/11/03 8:33:09 PM Central Daylight Time,
steve@OldSub.com
> writes:
>
>
> > Tomorrow's plan includes using the '72 to tow a buddy's '54 Chevy from a
> > shop to his house on a dolly.  The dolly reduces the total load by a
1000
> > pounds, which means slowing down is easier.
> >
>
>   Steve, I have to question you on this one. Using a dolly will not make
it
> easier to slow down. Mass is mass, whether it's on 4 wheels or 8, once
it's
> moving it still takes the same effort to slow it down. Using a dolly,
verus a
> trailer, can in some ways, make it more difficult to control, because you
added
> another "hinge point." As a semi driver, I can tell you first hand that
pulling
> any load, with any power unit, is dangerous if you don't have brakes on
the
> trailer (or dolly in this case). I can, and have jackknifed an empty
trailer,
> (with trailer brakes not working right) because the stopping power of the
power
> unit was quicker than the mass in motion of the pulled unit. The more
weight
> you pull, the worse it is.
>  And remember, a pickup pulling a trailer is just like a semi truck, NOONE
> wants to follow it. John Q. Public WILL pull out in front of you, so they
don't
> have to follow you down the road. They will do it even if it kills them
> trying, because they don't know or care if you are doing 50 or 70 MPH,
they what in
> front of you.
> Patrick A. Hollister '58 step
> West Burlington, IA.
> oletrucks is devoted to Chevy and GM trucks built between 1941 and 1959
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