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Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Extension cord length vs. wire gauge
From: Bill Rabel <brabel@comcast.net>
Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2018 13:49:42 -0700
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I think that a battery-powered trimmer would not cost much more than all tha=
t cord. I have an E-Go trimmer from Home Depot, and I=E2=80=99m worn out bef=
ore it even slows down.=20



=F0=9F=8D=84 Statistically, six out of seven dwarfs are not Happy.=20

> On Oct 31, 2018, at 9:48 AM, Scott Hall <scott.hall.personal@gmail.com> wr=
ote:
>=20
> It's a hedge-trimmer.
>=20
> A goddamned hedge trimmer for the the goddamned hedges.
>=20
> I went and bought a house with...shrubbery. It's a nice house and I like i=
t. In a neighborhood. A nice one. With neighbors. Kinda rich ones, with yard=
 people that keep their yards looking _very_ nice.=20
>=20
> I am having more than a little difficulty with the idea that I own a house=
 with shrubs that need to be maintained. I mean, I saw them when I looked at=
 the house, butt I guess it didn't register. And as much as anything else, I=
 don't want the neighbors to think I'm bringing down their neighborhood. I a=
lready bought this as a foreclosure and they're all kind of acting like I sa=
ved that end of the street from an ogre.
>=20
> This is actually kind of a thing for me. I used to race motorcycles all we=
ekend. People that "have people" make my ass twitch a little bit. I got a gu=
y for stuff back home--they have...staff. One guy's watch cost more than my h=
ouse, I think. I'm not sure I belong here, no matter how much money I make. I=
 don't want to own any "hedges". At least not the plant kind.=20
>=20
> But I like this house, on this lot, and I'd like to be a good neighbor, an=
d they're nice folks and probably don't deserve me bringing down their prope=
rty values. And how much this is getting to me is ALSO getting to me.
>=20
> But anyway, I need a f*ck#ng hedge trimmer for these hedges and some sort o=
f cover plant that I like along the driveway. He called it honeysuckle.
>=20
> I dislike the idea of even owning a *hedge trimmer* enough that I don't wa=
nt to spend any coin on it. I'd buy the gas version and slap an expansion ch=
amber on it and get my rocks off that way, but (also problematic for me) the=
 grown up in my head is noting that might be a pointless waste of money. The=
se things need to be cut twice a year, max, I'd bet...and I don't envision m=
yself becoming the sort of person that schools sculpts and topiary.
>=20
> Anyway, thanks for the suggestion Eric. I'll see if I can get a hedge trim=
mer for that setup.
>=20
> Convince me about battery life. I swore off cordless tools after going all=
-in on Milwaukee 18v kit twenty years ago and having the batteries last a fe=
w months each. I have this whole ecosystem of useless tools because I got ti=
red of spending $60 a pop for new packs. On sale.
>=20
> How long are those lasting you? How frequently do you charge them? Can the=
y sit for months and still hold a charge when used again or do I have to bab=
y them?
>=20
> Thanks,=20
>=20
> Scott
>=20
>> On Wed, Oct 31, 2018, 12:11 PM <eric@megageek.com wrote:
>> OK, I hate to be 'that guy' but have you looked at this...=20
>>=20
>> https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01NBVCQ4W/ref=3Doh_aui_search_detailpa=
ge?ie=3DUTF8&psc=3D1=20
>>=20
>> A little pricey, BUT it is an excuse to buy a tool, AND you can use it fo=
r a lot of other things.  I have this model and I run a firewood farm.  My j=
aw dropped the first time I use this thing.=20
>>=20
>> It is a beast, the batteries do last long.  The kerf is very narrow, so I=
 think that is why the performance is so great.=20
>>=20
>> Arguments for...=20
>>=20
>> -It's way safer than a gas powered unit=20
>> -You do not need to worry about extension cords (if you are making this a=
ugment to an SO, also add "Honey, if I accidentally nick the wire with the c=
hainsaw, I might get electrocuted.  You don't want that, do you?)*=20
>> -Instead of being 'ashamed' of the electric saw, you get to proclaim this=
 awesomeness=20
>> -the batteries are compatible with other Dewalt items, SO there is possib=
le more tool goodness to come.=20
>> -Did I mention bragging rights?=20
>> -You can even use to it trim wood to use in projects, like if you make bo=
wls, carvings or pens on a lathe (I do use this for it.)=20
>> -You can use it inside if you need to do demo/home repair=20
>> -It's Dewalt, so that is cool=20
>>=20
>> Just some food for thought.=20
>>=20
>> *=3D I'm a 47 year old bachelor.  I do not know anything about long term m=
arriages,so this may not work.  YMMV.=20
>>=20
>>=20
>> Sent from my Commodore 64 on a 2400 Baud Modem.
>> Tech Viper
>> "Be as beneficent as the sun or the sea, but if your rights as a rational=
 being are trenched on, die on the first inch of your territory." Ralph Wald=
o Emerson _______________________________________________
>>=20
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto">I think that a battery-powered trimmer woul=
d not cost much more than all that cord. I have an E-Go trimmer from Home De=
pot, and I=E2=80=99m worn out before it even slows down.&nbsp;<br><br><div i=
d=3D"AppleMailSignature" dir=3D"ltr"><div><br></div><div><br></div>=F0=9F=8D=
=84 Statistically, six out of seven dwarfs are not Happy.&nbsp;</div><div di=
r=3D"ltr"><br>On Oct 31, 2018, at 9:48 AM, Scott Hall &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:=
scott.hall.personal@gmail.com">scott.hall.personal@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<=
br><br></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"auto">It=
's a hedge-trimmer.<div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">A goddamned=
 hedge trimmer for the the goddamned hedges.</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></di=
v><div dir=3D"auto">I went and bought a house with...shrubbery. It's a nice h=
ouse and I like it. In a neighborhood. A nice one. With neighbors. Kinda ric=
h ones, with yard people that keep their yards looking _very_ nice.&nbsp;</d=
iv><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">I am having more than a lit=
tle difficulty with the idea that I own a house with shrubs that need to be m=
aintained. I mean, I saw them when I looked at the house, butt I guess it di=
dn't register. And as much as anything else, I don't want the neighbors to t=
hink I'm bringing down their neighborhood. I already bought this as a forecl=
osure and they're all kind of acting like I saved that end of the street fro=
m an ogre.</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">This is actual=
ly kind of a thing for me. I used to race motorcycles all weekend. People th=
at "have people" make my ass twitch a little bit. I got a guy for stuff back=
 home--they have...staff. One guy's watch cost more than my house, I think. I=
'm not sure I belong here, no matter how much money I make. I don't want to o=
wn any "hedges". At least not the plant kind.&nbsp;</div><div dir=3D"auto"><=
br></div><div dir=3D"auto">But I like this house, on this lot, and I'd like t=
o be a good neighbor, and they're nice folks and probably don't deserve me b=
ringing down their property values. And how much this is getting to me is AL=
SO getting to me.</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">But any=
way, I need a f*ck#ng hedge trimmer for these hedges and some sort of cover p=
lant that I like along the driveway. He called it honeysuckle.</div><div dir=
=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">I dislike the idea of even owning a *h=
edge trimmer* enough that I don't want to spend any coin on it. I'd buy the g=
as version and slap an expansion chamber on it and get my rocks off that way=
, but (also problematic for me) the grown up in my head is noting that might=
 be a pointless waste of money. These things need to be cut twice a year, ma=
x, I'd bet...and I don't envision myself becoming the sort of person that sc=
hools sculpts and topiary.</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto=
">Anyway, thanks for the suggestion Eric. I'll see if I can get a hedge trim=
mer for that setup.</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">Convi=
nce me about battery life. I swore off cordless tools after going all-in on M=
ilwaukee 18v kit twenty years ago and having the batteries last a few months=
 each. I have this whole ecosystem of useless tools because I got tired of s=
pending <span class=3D"money">$60</span>&nbsp;a pop for new packs. On sale.<=
/div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">How long are those lastin=
g you? How frequently do you charge them? Can they sit for months and still h=
old a charge when used again or do I have to baby them?</div><div dir=3D"aut=
o"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">Thanks,&nbsp;</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></di=
v><div dir=3D"auto">Scott</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=
=3D"ltr">On Wed, Oct 31, 2018, 12:11 PM  &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:eric@megageek=
.com">eric@megageek.com</a> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote=
" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><f=
ont size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">OK, I hate to be 'that guy' but have you
looked at this...</font>
<br>
<br><a href=3D"https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01NBVCQ4W/ref=3Doh_aui_sea=
rch_detailpage?ie=3DUTF8&amp;psc=3D1" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer"><=
font size=3D"2" color=3D"blue" face=3D"sans-serif">https://www.amazon.com/gp=
/product/B01NBVCQ4W/ref=3Doh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=3DUTF8&amp;psc=3D1</fo=
nt></a>
<br>
<br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">A little pricey, BUT it is an excus=
e
to buy a tool, AND you can use it for a lot of other things.&nbsp; I have
this model and I run a firewood farm.&nbsp; My jaw dropped the first time
I use this thing.</font>
<br>
<br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">It is a beast, the batteries do las=
t
long.&nbsp; The kerf is very narrow, so I think that is why the performance
is so great.</font>
<br>
<br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">Arguments for...</font>
<br>
<br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">-It's way safer than a gas powered u=
nit</font>
<br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">-You do not need to worry about ext=
ension
cords (if you are making this augment to an SO, also add "Honey, if
I accidentally nick the wire with the chainsaw, I might get electrocuted.
&nbsp;You don't want that, do you?)*</font>
<br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">-Instead of being 'ashamed' of the e=
lectric
saw, you get to proclaim this awesomeness</font>
<br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">-the batteries are compatible with o=
ther
Dewalt items, SO there is possible more tool goodness to come.</font>
<br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">-Did I mention bragging rights?</fo=
nt>
<br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">-You can even use to it trim wood t=
o
use in projects, like if you make bowls, carvings or pens on a lathe (I
do use this for it.)</font>
<br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">-You can use it inside if you need t=
o
do demo/home repair</font>
<br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">-It's Dewalt, so that is cool</font=
>
<br>
<br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">Just some food for thought.</font>
<br>
<br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">*=3D I'm a 47 year old bachelor.&nb=
sp; I
do not know anything about long term marriages,so this may not work.&nbsp; Y=
MMV.</font>
<br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif"><br>
<br>
Sent from my Commodore 64 on a 2400 Baud Modem.<br>
Tech Viper<br>
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being are trenched on, die on the first inch of your territory." Ralph
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