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Scott,
Several thoughts. There needs to be a GFCI Function on any outside circuit. I=
t could be a GFCI breaker in a panel or a GFCI outlet.=20
I would get a GFCI outlet tester to see If the circuit has the GFCI function=
ality somewhere. It=E2=80=99s redundant to have a GFCI outlet & breaker on t=
he same circuit.=20
Since this outlet doesn=E2=80=99t seem to be up to code I=E2=80=99d question=
whether the sub panel was installed to code also. If it isn=E2=80=99t a rea=
l sub panel, but rather just a disconnect there may be something farther bac=
k in the system that is supplying the GFCI function, either a GFCI breaker i=
n another panel or a GFCI outlet in the garage or a bathroom.=20
As for replacing the outlet/cutting the PVC, yes it can be done on the strai=
ght conduct. If it were me, I=E2=80=99d cut the conduit back to a straight p=
art and then complete the conduit with a flexible conduit like what is used o=
n an A/C unit. That way I=E2=80=99d the outlet gets hit or stressed it won=E2=
=80=99t break like your old one. I=E2=80=99d also install an in use cover on=
the Outlet box so that it Will still be water resistant when something is p=
lugged into it.=20
I=E2=80=99d be happy to discuss this further with you if desired.=20
Peace,
Pat
Pat Horne=20
We support Habitat for Humanity
On Jul 10, 2020, at 1:45 PM, Scott Hall <scott.hall.personal@gmail.com> wrot=
e:
=EF=BB=BF
I have this:
https://i.imgur.com/QWy2Ikn.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/s39fdds.jpg
Happening at the new house. Those rocks surround the pool deck for ornamenta=
tion, I guess.=20
Shockingly (or not, heh), those outlets work. I'd like to re-do the whole th=
ing to be anchored into the ground and not make me nervous every time I look=
at it.
The pool is about eight feet away. Maybe two feet of that rock...'garden' th=
en six feet of concrete decking. Those outlets themselves don't appear to be=
GFCI, though I'd think it was a good idea. They have their own sub-panel, o=
n the side of the house maybe forty feet away.
I'm completely okay with throwing the breaker and installing a new actual ou=
tlet, I'm soliciting advice on how to re-do that conduit (can you 'splice' c=
onduit so I dig and then do it like I'd do PVC?) and anchor the whole thing f=
irmly to the ground. And for specific solutions you guys can think of too--I=
was thinking I could pour a concrete 'rock' in the garage with a hole for a=
gang box and then put that where this thing is now, etc.
Thanks guys.
Scott
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto">Scott,<div><br></div><div>Several thoughts.=
There needs to be a GFCI Function on any outside circuit. It could be a GFC=
I breaker in a panel or a GFCI outlet. </div><div><br></div><div>I woul=
d get a GFCI outlet tester to see If the circuit has the GFCI functionality s=
omewhere. It=E2=80=99s redundant to have a GFCI outlet & breaker on the s=
ame circuit. </div><div><br></div><div>Since this outlet doesn=E2=80=99=
t seem to be up to code I=E2=80=99d question whether the sub panel was insta=
lled to code also. If it isn=E2=80=99t a real sub panel, but rather just a d=
isconnect there may be something farther back in the system that is supplyin=
g the GFCI function, either a GFCI breaker in another panel or a GFCI outlet=
in the garage or a bathroom. </div><div><br></div><div>As for replacin=
g the outlet/cutting the PVC, yes it can be done on the straight conduct. If=
it were me, I=E2=80=99d cut the conduit back to a straight part and then co=
mplete the conduit with a flexible conduit like what is used on an A/C unit.=
That way I=E2=80=99d the outlet gets hit or stressed it won=E2=80=99t break=
like your old one. I=E2=80=99d also install an in use cover on the Outlet b=
ox so that it Will still be water resistant when something is plugged into i=
t. </div><div><br></div><div>I=E2=80=99d be happy to discuss this furth=
er with you if desired. </div><div><br></div><div>Peace,</div><div>Pat<=
/div><div><br><div dir=3D"ltr">Pat Horne <div>We support Habitat for Hu=
manity</div><div><br></div></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br>On Jul 10, 2020, at 1:=
45 PM, Scott Hall <scott.hall.personal@gmail.com> wrote:<br><br></div>=
<div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF<div dir=3D"ltr">I have this:<div><br></div><div><=
a href=3D"https://i.imgur.com/QWy2Ikn.jpg";>https://i.imgur.com/QWy2Ikn.jpg</=
a><br></div><div><a href=3D"https://i.imgur.com/s39fdds.jpg";>https://i.imgur=
.com/s39fdds.jpg</a><br></div><div><br></div><div>Happening at the new house=
. Those rocks surround the pool deck for ornamentation, I guess. </div>=
<div><br></div><div>Shockingly (or not, heh), those outlets work. I'd like t=
o re-do the whole thing to be anchored into the ground and not make me nervo=
us every time I look at it.</div><div><br></div><div>The pool is about eight=
feet away. Maybe two feet of that rock...'garden' then six feet of concrete=
decking. Those outlets themselves don't appear to be GFCI, though I'd think=
it was a good idea. They have their own sub-panel, on the side of the house=
maybe forty feet away.</div><div><br></div><div>I'm completely okay with th=
rowing the breaker and installing a new actual outlet, I'm soliciting advice=
on how to re-do that conduit (can you 'splice' conduit so I dig and then do=
it like I'd do PVC?) and anchor the whole thing firmly to the ground. And f=
or specific solutions you guys can think of too--I was thinking I could pour=
a concrete 'rock' in the garage with a hole for a gang box and then put tha=
t where this thing is now, etc.</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks guys.</div><=
div><br></div><div>Scott</div></div>
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