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Re: [Shop-talk] [OT] Unbelievable

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Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] [OT] Unbelievable
From: DAVID MASSEY <dave1massey@cs.com>
Date: Tue, 4 May 2021 11:32:05 +0000 (UTC)
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 It cost actual money to do a hard count of inventory.=C2=A0 These outfits =
cut cost wherever possible and that is the first thing to go.=C2=A0 The rig=
ht thing to do is when this happens the employee should zero out the count =
but I seriously doubt they are empowered to do so.=C2=A0 Nor are they motiv=
ated to do so.
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Dave=20

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-----Original Message-----
From: Brian Kemp <bk13@earthlink.net>
To: Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.net>; Shop Talk <shop-talk@autox.team.net=
>
Sent: Tue, May 4, 2021 12:24 am
Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] [OT] Unbelievable

 I agree that it is unbelievable how bad some of the home centers can be.=
=C2=A0 Needed a vacuum cleaner belt fast.=C2=A0 Not in stock anywhere other=
 than HD per the websites.=C2=A0 The nearest HD said there were five in sto=
ck.=C2=A0 Couldn't find any.=C2=A0 Next one said there were three in stock =
- none there.=C2=A0 Drove to a third one with seven listed in stock and sti=
ll none available.=C2=A0 The employee at the last location said they are fr=
equently shoplifted.=C2=A0 At each store I asked for help finding the belt =
and each employee said there were none in the store.=C2=A0 The sad thing is=
 that a week later, the websites still had the same inventory numbers liste=
d.=C2=A0 You would think there would be a process to correct inventory.=C2=
=A0 I'm in the Los Angeles area and have a number of stores to pick from an=
d they are managed very differently.=C2=A0 I have not gone to the one neare=
st to my office in about five years because it is so poorly managed and the=
 items like the plumbing and electrical fittings are all messed up.
=20
 My last adventure was a replacement battery for my wife's key locator.=C2=
=A0 Went to Lowes because they had 47 listed on their website.=C2=A0 Had an=
 employee help me and checked all the battery storage areas and we couldn't=
 find any.=C2=A0 A month later, the website still said 47 and the hook for =
that size remained empty.
=20
 I used to live near a nice True Value hardware store.=C2=A0 Much smaller, =
but organized better and there was always an employee willing to help me.=
=C2=A0 The prices are a little higher, but the convenience and service are =
worth it.=C2=A0 Sadly the landlord ended their lease to put in a restaurant=
 that closed a year later (before the pandemic)
=20
 Brian
=20
 On 5/3/2021 9:01 PM, Bob Spidell wrote:
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Pardon me, I just gotta vent. Not being able to find these plumbing pieces =
at HD and Lowe's--even though their websites said they had bunches in stock=
--and at a plumbing supply, I finally broke down and ordered from Lowe's (2=
"<->2" elbow, external thread to slip joint, and a 1.5" plug, for a differe=
nt application). So, after FedEx apparently lost, then found, the shipment =
they showed up today. One problem: the jackass that packed them jammed the =
1.5" plug into the threaded end of the elbow so hard it may be impossible t=
o remove it without breaking the elbow. I'll get it in a vice when I get to=
 my shop tomorrow, but there's no guarantee of successful extraction.=20
=20
 I get it; working the line at a warehouse is a shit job, but someone went =
out of their way to do this. I usually apply Hanlon's Razor--"Don't attribu=
te to malice that which can be explained by incompetence"--but the plug is =
jammed in the elbow so hard someone really had to work at it. I hope it fel=
t good.=20
=20
 Vent mode off.=20
=20
 Bob=20
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<div> <font size="3">It cost actual money to do a hard count of 
inventory.&nbsp; These outfits cut cost wherever possible and that is the first 
thing to go.&nbsp; The right thing to do is when this happens the employee 
should zero out the count but I seriously doubt they are empowered to do 
so.&nbsp; Nor are they motivated to do so.</font><br>
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<div style="clear:both"><font size="4">Dave </font><br>
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size="2">-----Original Message-----<br>
From: Brian Kemp &lt;bk13@earthlink.net&gt;<br>
To: Bob Spidell &lt;bspidell@comcast.net&gt;; Shop Talk 
&lt;shop-talk@autox.team.net&gt;<br>
Sent: Tue, May 4, 2021 12:24 am<br>
Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] [OT] Unbelievable<br>
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    I agree that it is unbelievable how bad some of the home centers can
    be.&nbsp; Needed a vacuum cleaner belt fast.&nbsp; Not in stock anywhere 
other
    than HD per the websites.&nbsp; The nearest HD said there were five in
    stock.&nbsp; Couldn't find any.&nbsp; Next one said there were three in 
stock
    - none there.&nbsp; Drove to a third one with seven listed in stock and
    still none available.&nbsp; The employee at the last location said they
    are frequently shoplifted.&nbsp; At each store I asked for help finding
    the belt and each employee said there were none in the store.&nbsp; The
    sad thing is that a week later, the websites still had the same
    inventory numbers listed.&nbsp; You would think there would be a process
    to correct inventory.&nbsp; I'm in the Los Angeles area and have a number
    of stores to pick from and they are managed very differently.&nbsp; I
    have not gone to the one nearest to my office in about five years
    because it is so poorly managed and the items like the plumbing and
    electrical fittings are all messed up.<br clear="none">
    <br clear="none">
    My last adventure was a replacement battery for my wife's key
    locator.&nbsp; Went to Lowes because they had 47 listed on their
    website.&nbsp; Had an employee help me and checked all the battery
    storage areas and we couldn't find any.&nbsp; A month later, the website
    still said 47 and the hook for that size remained empty.<br clear="none">
    <br clear="none">
    I used to live near a nice True Value hardware store.&nbsp; Much smaller,
    but organized better and there was always an employee willing to
    help me.&nbsp; The prices are a little higher, but the convenience and
    service are worth it.&nbsp; Sadly the landlord ended their lease to put
    in a restaurant that closed a year later (before the pandemic)<br 
clear="none">
    <br clear="none">
    Brian<br clear="none">
    <br clear="none">
    
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<div class="yiv5915337374moz-cite-prefix">On 5/3/2021 9:01 PM, Bob Spidell 
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<div class="yiv5915337374yqt5945608998" id="yiv5915337374yqtfd10811">Pardon
      me, I just gotta vent. Not being able to find these plumbing
      pieces at HD and Lowe's--even though their websites said they had
      bunches in stock--and at a plumbing supply, I finally broke down
      and ordered from Lowe's (2"&lt;-&gt;2" elbow, external thread to
      slip joint, and a 1.5" plug, for a different application). So,
      after FedEx apparently lost, then found, the shipment they showed
      up today. One problem: the jackass that packed them jammed the
      1.5" plug into the threaded end of the elbow so hard it may be
      impossible to remove it without breaking the elbow. I'll get it in
      a vice when I get to my shop tomorrow, but there's no guarantee of
      successful extraction.
      <br clear="none">
      <br clear="none">
      I get it; working the line at a warehouse is a shit job, but
      someone went out of their way to do this. I usually apply Hanlon's
      Razor--"Don't attribute to malice that which can be explained by
      incompetence"--but the plug is jammed in the elbow so hard someone
      really had to work at it. I hope it felt good.
      <br clear="none">
      <br clear="none">
      Vent mode off.
      <br clear="none">
      <br clear="none">
      Bob
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