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Re: [Shop-talk] Mower blade orientaaion relative to piston

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Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Mower blade orientaaion relative to piston
From: Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.net>
Date: Tue, 18 May 2021 17:34:44 -0700
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Possibly of some interest: I had a Craftsman walk-behind that quit 
running suddenly. I tore the engine down, didn't find anything, then 
finally took it to a repair shop. They told me the blade had a crack in 
it that caused the problem; supposedly the blade is part of a timing 
loop that fires the spark. Sort of makes sense if you think of the blade 
as a flywheel with a position sensor on it.

Bob

On 5/18/2021 2:55 PM, Brian and Wendy Warrick wrote:
> I run Snapper walk behind mowers and have never gave it a thought. I 
> can't see why it would matter. If it did, they would have designed the 
> adapter differently.
>
> Brian
> Nampa, ID
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *From:* Shop-talk <shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net> on behalf of Karl 
> Vacek <stearman809@gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 18, 2021 3:52 PM
> *To:* 'shop-talk@autox.team.net' <Shop-talk@autox.team.net>
> *Subject:* [Shop-talk] Mower blade orientaaion relative to piston
>
> Last time I sharpened my 21? walk-behind mower blade I thought of 
> something that?s never occurred to me, after using the same brand of 
> mower for 25 years..
>
> On a Snapper, the blade can actually go on any way onto the square 
> adapter keyed to the crankshaft.  The mounting point is square, no 
> pins, no longer side, nothing.
>
> One way would be aligned with the cylinder at TDC/BDC, and the other 
> way would be across.  It?s been off many times and there?s no way to 
> tell how it was mounted originally. The manual is silent on this.
>
> Power stroke shouldn?t matter, but maybe some dynamic issue one way or 
> the other?
>
> Thanks!
> Karl
>
>


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    Possibly of some interest: I had a Craftsman walk-behind that quit
    running suddenly. I tore the engine down, didn't find anything, then
    finally took it to a repair shop. They told me the blade had a crack
    in it that caused the problem; supposedly the blade is part of a
    timing loop that fires the spark. Sort of makes sense if you think
    of the blade as a flywheel with a position sensor on it.<br>
    <br>
    Bob<br>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 5/18/2021 2:55 PM, Brian and Wendy
      Warrick wrote:<br>
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        I run Snapper walk behind mowers and have never gave it a
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        Brian</div>
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        Nampa, ID</div>
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            Shop-talk <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" 
href="mailto:shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net";>&lt;shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net&gt;</a>
 on behalf
            of Karl Vacek <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" 
href="mailto:stearman809@gmail.com";>&lt;stearman809@gmail.com&gt;</a><br>
            <b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, May 18, 2021 3:52 PM<br>
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            <b>Subject:</b> [Shop-talk] Mower blade orientaaion relative
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              Last time I sharpened my 21? walk-behind mower blade I
              thought of something that?s never occurred to me, after
              using the same brand of mower for 25 years..</p>
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            <p class="x_MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;
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              On a Snapper, the blade can actually go on any way onto
              the square adapter keyed to the crankshaft.  The mounting
              point is square, no pins, no longer side, nothing.</p>
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            <p class="x_MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;
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              One way would be aligned with the cylinder at TDC/BDC, and
              the other way would be across.  It?s been off many times
              and there?s no way to tell how it was mounted originally. 
              The manual is silent on this.</p>
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              Power stroke shouldn?t matter, but maybe some dynamic
              issue one way or the other?</p>
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              Thanks!<br>
              Karl</p>
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