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Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Lighting question
From: Peter Murray <peterwmurray@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2021 15:47:48 -0400
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If you're wedded to the fixture, then a ballast or switch could fix that
issue. If you just want the light to work, perhaps one of these 2' X 2' LED
ceiling fixtures would be an easy (no paintwork needed) replacement:

https://www.lowes.com/pd/Lithonia-Lighting-2-ft-x-2-ft-LL-CPANL-LED-Flat-Pa=
nel-with-3300-Lumens-and-3500-to-5000K-Switchable-CCT-with-Direct-Ceiling-M=
ount-Bracket/5001878521

My MiL had one installed in her kitchen (replaced a 2' X 4' fluorescent)
and it works incredibly well. Color temperature is adjustable to suit your
desires.

-Peter

On Mon, Aug 30, 2021 at 2:00 PM Jimmie Mayfield <
mayfield+shoptalk@sackheads.org> wrote:

> Before you spend too much money retrofitting that fixture, have you
> considered installing some LED track-lighting in its place?  I had one
> of those dual-U fluorescent fixtures in the kitchen when I moved in.
> Could never get shadow-free lighting on the counters when I was
> working.  Wound up installing some generic track in an "L" shape and
> bought 8 PAR30 LED fixtures.  Total outlay was about $150 but now I have
> around 9000 lumens in the kitchen and the light is where I need it.  For
> a while, I had better lighting in the kitchen than I had in my garage!
>
>
> On 8/30/21 12:43, Matt wrote:
> > OK, so it is kitchen lighting but it is where I make my sandwiches that
> I eat in the SHOP!
> >
> > I have a 2 x2 surface mount fixture with 2 T12 bent tube fluorescents.
> Works fine but occasionally you have to flip the switch multiple times to
> get it on.  I thought probably a bad switch but it is on a dual switch an=
d
> it is intermittent on both&#65533;. Two bad switches or maybe a ballast
> going bad?
> >
> > I was semi surprised to find that the bulbs are still available for $10
> each.  An electronic ballast isn=E2=80=99t much more so I can completely =
replace
> the guts for $30.  Before I do, should I upgrade to T8, T5 or even LED?  =
I
> could easily fit an 18 inch round or square led panel into the existing
> fixture.
> >
> > Any thoughts?
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<div dir=3D"ltr">If you&#39;re wedded to the fixture, then a ballast or swi=
tch could fix that issue. If you just want the light to work, perhaps one o=
f these 2&#39; X 2&#39; LED ceiling fixtures would=C2=A0be an easy (no pain=
twork needed) replacement:<div><br></div><div><a href=3D"https://www.lowes.=
com/pd/Lithonia-Lighting-2-ft-x-2-ft-LL-CPANL-LED-Flat-Panel-with-3300-Lume=
ns-and-3500-to-5000K-Switchable-CCT-with-Direct-Ceiling-Mount-Bracket/50018=
78521">https://www.lowes.com/pd/Lithonia-Lighting-2-ft-x-2-ft-LL-CPANL-LED-=
Flat-Panel-with-3300-Lumens-and-3500-to-5000K-Switchable-CCT-with-Direct-Ce=
iling-Mount-Bracket/5001878521</a><br></div><div><br></div><div>My MiL had =
one installed in her kitchen (replaced a 2&#39; X 4&#39; fluorescent) and i=
t works incredibly well. Color temperature is adjustable to suit your desir=
es.</div><div><br></div><div>-Peter</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quot=
e"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon, Aug 30, 2021 at 2:00 PM Ji=
mmie Mayfield &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:mayfield%2Bshoptalk@sackheads.org";>mayf=
ield+shoptalk@sackheads.org</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gm=
ail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,=
204,204);padding-left:1ex">Before you spend too much money retrofitting tha=
t fixture, have you <br>
considered installing some LED track-lighting in its place?=C2=A0 I had one=
 <br>
of those dual-U fluorescent fixtures in the kitchen when I moved in.=C2=A0 =
<br>
Could never get shadow-free lighting on the counters when I was <br>
working.=C2=A0 Wound up installing some generic track in an &quot;L&quot; s=
hape and <br>
bought 8 PAR30 LED fixtures.=C2=A0 Total outlay was about $150 but now I ha=
ve <br>
around 9000 lumens in the kitchen and the light is where I need it.=C2=A0 F=
or <br>
a while, I had better lighting in the kitchen than I had in my garage!<br>
<br>
<br>
On 8/30/21 12:43, Matt wrote:<br>
&gt; OK, so it is kitchen lighting but it is where I make my sandwiches tha=
t I eat in the SHOP!<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; I have a 2 x2 surface mount fixture with 2 T12 bent tube fluorescents.=
 Works fine but occasionally you have to flip the switch multiple times to =
get it on.=C2=A0 I thought probably a bad switch but it is on a dual switch=
 and it is intermittent on both&amp;#65533;. Two bad switches or maybe a ba=
llast going bad?<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; I was semi surprised to find that the bulbs are still available for $1=
0 each.=C2=A0 An electronic ballast isn=E2=80=99t much more so I can comple=
tely replace the guts for $30.=C2=A0 Before I do, should I upgrade to T8, T=
5 or even LED?=C2=A0 I could easily fit an 18 inch round or square led pane=
l into the existing fixture.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Any thoughts?<br>
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