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Re: [Shop-talk] Car pulls left

To: Paul Parkanzky <parkanzky@gmail.com> 2903e8d5c8f:6.0.425,18.0.572,17.11.62.513.0000000 definitions=2022-01-14_01:2022-01-14_01,2020-02-14_11,2021-12-02_01 signatures=0 bulkscore=0 mlxlogscore=999 malwarescore=0 clxscore=1015 suspectscore=0 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 mlxscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.12.0-2009150000 definitions=main-2203250070
Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Car pulls left
From: Pat Horne <patintexas@icloud.com>
Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2022 07:32:53 -0500
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I=E2=80=99ve been thinking about that too. I=E2=80=99d check to see if the w=
heels have the same offset, at least in each pair.=20

Peace,
Pat=20

Pat Horne=20
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On Mar 25, 2022, at 7:29 AM, Paul Parkanzky <parkanzky@gmail.com> wrote:

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Is there anything on that side that is warm/hot after a long run on the high=
way? i.e. Put your hand on the hub and calipers on the left side to see if t=
hey're significantly hotter than on the right. That could point to a brake h=
anging up a bit or a wheel bearing that is failing.

It's puzzling to me that the pull would change when you move tires back and f=
orth.

-Paul

On Fri, Mar 25, 2022 at 7:41 AM Jim Franklin <jamesf@groupwbench.org> wrote:=

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>> On Mar 24, 2022, at 11:05 PM, David Scheidt <dmscheidt@gmail.com> wrote:
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>> Take it to a body shop, I'd bet it's been crashed, and poorly repaired. =20=

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> Perhaps, however, even if the car was crushed into a ball and unfolded, as=
 long as the wheels are in alignment, it shouldn't matter, right? The wheels=
 are 4 independent points in space, which the alignment machine measures. It=
's not like things are fine when pointed straight but go to hell when I turn=
 the wheel - it's when pointed straight that something puts a torque into th=
e steering.=20
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> What I'm searching for is a way that the alignment numbers would read in s=
pec but something is still putting a force on the system.=20
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto">I=E2=80=99ve been thinking about that too. I=
=E2=80=99d check to see if the wheels have the same offset, at least in each=
 pair.&nbsp;<div><br></div><div>Peace,</div><div>Pat&nbsp;<br><br><div dir=3D=
"ltr">Pat Horne&nbsp;<div>We support Habitat for Humanity</div><div><br></di=
v></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br>On Mar 25, 2022, at 7:29 AM, Paul Parkanzky &lt=
;parkanzky@gmail.com&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF<div d=
ir=3D"ltr">Is there anything on that side that is warm/hot after a long run o=
n the highway? i.e. Put your hand on the hub and calipers on the left side t=
o see if they're significantly hotter than on the right. That could point to=
 a brake hanging up a bit or a wheel bearing that is failing.<div><br></div>=
<div>It's puzzling to me that the pull would change when you move tires back=
 and forth.<br><div><div><br></div><div>-Paul</div></div></div></div><br><di=
v class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Fri, Mar 25=
, 2022 at 7:41 AM Jim Franklin &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:jamesf@groupwbench.org"=
>jamesf@groupwbench.org</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_q=
uote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,20=
4);padding-left:1ex"><div style=3D"overflow-wrap: break-word;"><br><div><br>=
<blockquote type=3D"cite"><div>On Mar 24, 2022, at 11:05 PM, David Scheidt &=
lt;<a href=3D"mailto:dmscheidt@gmail.com"; target=3D"_blank">dmscheidt@gmail.=
com</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br><div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"fon=
t-family:Helvetica;font-size:14px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal=
;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;t=
ext-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none"=
><div><br></div><div>Take it to a body shop, I'd bet it's been crashed, and p=
oorly repaired. &nbsp;</div></div></div></blockquote><br></div><div>Perhaps,=
 however, even if the car was crushed into a ball and unfolded, as long as t=
he wheels are in alignment, it shouldn't matter, right? The wheels are 4 ind=
ependent points in space, which the alignment machine measures. It's not lik=
e things are fine when pointed straight but go to hell when I turn the wheel=
 - it's when pointed straight that something puts a torque into the steering=
.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>What I'm searching for is a way that the al=
ignment numbers would read in spec but something is still putting a force on=
 the system.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>jim</div></div>_________________=
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