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Re: [Shotimes] OT, Hogs plugged up in Wisconsin!

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Subject: Re: [Shotimes] OT, Hogs plugged up in Wisconsin!
From: "Dave Garber" <dave.garber@comcast.net>
Date: Thu, 11 May 2006 19:58:07 -0400
This is a topic on my Sportster list. FWIW, most of the folks on my bike
list agree that drag pipes and such are doing nothing more than making the
'sport' of riding more difficult for the rest of us who utilize restraint
where 'noise' is concerned.

Lee is the Sportster lists sort of combination Ron/Don.


Dave Garber
Pittsburgh, PA
99 White, 98k
99 Silver, 81k


----- Original Message -----
From: "Lee C. Bussy" <Sportster@XLrator.com>
To: "XL-List" <xl-list@sportster.org>
Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2006 8:49 PM
Subject: Re: Noise Complaints Too Loud


> On Wednesday, May 10, 2006 Michael Staton wrote:
>
> M> If noise doesn't make you more noticeable (save lives) then fire
> M> trucks and Police wouldn't use sirens. This is all a bunch of Crap!
>
> That's not a very good argument since Police and Firefighters must
> break normal traffic rules in order to save our lives.  Do a little
> research on how many accidents there are in a year involving emergency
> vehicles.  They are loud and bright to let you know they are doing
> something different. You on the other hand should not be breaking laws
> and doing anything different.
>
> The safest thing you can do, the best way to make sure you live, is to
> make sure you are alert and safe.  If you have to rely on your pipes
> to let another driver know you're there because you're not paying
> attention, you probably won't live long.
>
> You want another important point?  Nobody complains about sirens
> waking them up because they know that there's an emergency somewhere -
> lives are at stake.  When you wake someone's baby up with your loud
> pipes, you;re simply an annoyance.  Do it enough and you will wake up
> the city councilman's baby.  He will respond by bringing to council a
> proposal that will be passed into law (because these are popular these
> days) preventing me, the guy that was not breaking the law, from
> enjoying himself.  It may also close a bike night in a local bar,
> putting a guy out of business that never had anything to do with your
> loud pipes.
>
> By the way, your original argument is called a strawman fallacy.
>
> -----
> Lee C. Bussy
> Kansas City, MO
> '68 XLCH
> '76 XL
> '06 FLHTCUI
>
> Before you contradict an old man, my fair friend, you should endeavor
> to understand him. George Santayana (1863 - 1952)
>
> TC-88 Discussion group at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HDTC88/
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