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Re: TR6 restoration - update report

To: <DANMAS@aol.com>, <spitfires@Autox.Team.Net>, <triumphs@Autox.Team.Net>,
Subject: Re: TR6 restoration - update report
From: "William Gregory" <william@purplenet.net>
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1998 22:53:29 -0500
Dan, the two piece exhaust valve retainers were designed to help the valve
rotate while in operation. This was believed to help prevent valve face to
seat hot spots from forming. I may or may not be correct with respect to the
spitfire engines. I do know that rotating valves were used on some passenger
car engines, most big truck engines and off road equipment engines.
   Bill G
-----Original Message-----
From: DANMAS@aol.com <DANMAS@aol.com>
To: spitfires@autox.team.net <spitfires@autox.team.net>;
triumphs@autox.team.net <triumphs@autox.team.net>; GuyotLeonF@aol.com
<GuyotLeonF@aol.com>
Date: Monday, November 23, 1998 9:42 PM
Subject: TR6 restoration - update report


>Listers
>
>First of all, a great big thank you to the members of the list who
contributed
>so generously to the restoration fund, to Leon for covering the cost of the
>repairs to the hood, and to the rest of you for your moral support. I won't
>mention every one by name, because I'm not sure every one would want me to
>(some of the contributions were sent anonimously), and I have tried to
thank
>every one individually, either by e-mail, or by snail mail. If I didn't
thank
>anyone, please excuse me, because e-mail is often lost, and accept my
thanks
>now.
>
>Now, on to the gory details:
>
>Firstly, when I removed the nuts holding the intake/exhaust manifolds on, I
>found NONE of the nuts were much more than finger tight. The "soft" gasket
>material had squeezed out from the metal "sandwich" around the first two
and
>the last two cylinders. For the most part, there was nothing but the metal
>left in place. On the intake ports for cylinders 1, 2, 5, & 6, the gasket
>material had squeezed into the port area, and had blocked off about 1/3 of
>each port.
>
>Secondly, the head is warped a bit between cylinders 2 & 3. I could slip a
>0.0025" feeler gauge under a straight edge in this area. Everywhere else,
the
>head was in good shape. I thought I would find a blown head gasket, but
this
>was not the case - the leakage I was getting between these two cylinders
>during the leak-down test was from the warped cylinder head.
>
>Thirdly, and this is really puzzling, I found some exhaust valve recession.
>Valves for cylinders 1 & 2 had recessed about 0.010", while the valve for
>cylinder 3 had recessed a whopping 0.040" (these are all approximate
numbers,
>as I have no precision method of  measuring the recession).  Just to
confuse
>the issue, the other three valves were in PERFECT condition - no sign at
all
>of valve recession!  This is after 20,000 miles of unleaded, regular gas.
>Obviously, the gas was not the problem, or all six exhaust valves would
have
>shown recession.
>
>As I reported earlier, the car was idleing and running fairly well when I
left
>Blacksburg, with a slight "put-put" from the exhaust, indicating a possible
>burned valve. By the time I got home, 250 miles later, the car would barely
>idle. It still ran well enough at speed, but not at idle (you must
remember, I
>had been driving the MGB for the previous two weeks, so even running
poorly,
>the TR6 seemed to be running strong by comparison, so I was not as
sensitive
>to any performance degradation as I normally would have been). When I
checked
>the valve clearance the next morning, I found zero lash on some of the
valves.
>Unfortunately, I didn't make a record of which valves had zero clearance,
but
>all of them were on the low side.
>
>I know what I need to do, and the head will go into the shop for truing and
>valve seat repairs, but I haven't a clue as to what caused the problems.
>Anybody?
>
>I'll be digging into the lower end next, and will post another report when
>that is done. I will check the cam lobes for any excessive wear, as well as
>the other routine checks.
>
>One quick question while I have your attention: The upper retaining collars
on
>the exhaust valves are two piece, while on the intakes, they are one piece.
>Anybody know why? Just curious.
>
>Thanks again to every one - your interest and support means a lot to me.
>
>Dan Masters,
>Alcoa, TN
>
>'71 TR6---------3000mile/year driver, fully restored
>'71 TR6---------undergoing full restoration and Ford 5.0 V8 insertion -
see:
>                    http://www.sky.net/~boballen/mg/Masters/index.html
>'74 MGBGT---3000mile/year driver, original condition - slated for a V8 soon
>'68 MGBGT---organ donor for the '74
>


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