Hi,
I can agree with most of your argument. But, factor in the WTC attack,
our relationship with Israel, and an obligation to rattle our saber in
the region and you have a different scenario. We could use our air
power to destroy all their forces and just bomb Iraq into oblivion. We
could do nothing and let the region run out of control. Our obligation
to help the people establish some kind of government necessitates our
ground invasion. I think we (Bush) are (is) trying to do the right
thing. Remember, in recent history we supported both Iraq and Osama.
History gives us lessons that we should study for our current and future
decisions. But, if the Carthaginians or Saddam or Germany would have
honored the treaties they signed, then three wars would have been
avoided, no? I think we should stick by Israel.
Also, Saddam won the last "election" with a 99% landslide. You couldn't
get 99% of any free society to agree on anything. You could ask "Is the
sky blue?" and at least 10% would say "no, it's indigo".
I realize that Saddam lies to his people and our government is not
totally truthful with us, but I think we are right in our quest to get
him out of Iraq. But we must make sure that his successor is not the
same or worse.
Our big mistake is leaving him in power the last time we fought over
there.
Cheers,
Derf
-----Original Message-----
From Bill L [mailto:pythias at pacifier.com]
Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 8:56 PM
To: Derf
Cc: spridgets@autox.team.net
Subject: Re[2]: War For Southern Independence NO LBC !DELETE! Political
Rant. You've been warned.
Hello Derf,
sorry, but you aren't going back far enough in history. i have
found this in my recent researches....
the third punic war's causes have been listed as this, by a
roman historian writing in the 1st century AD...
the carthigenians had possession of ships, in violation of the
treaty (of the second punic war). they had attacked the
numidians, (in violation of the treaty). the romans made them
give up thier "unlawful" weapons, and destroyed them before the
citizens of carthage. they asked them to tear down their walls,
and for all the leading citizens to leave the city, (go into
exile). when they refused this, they "chose" war instead of
suffering such humiliation, and fought to the bitter end,
including women and children.
replace ships, with weapons off mass destruction, numidians
with kuwait, and it is almost EXACTLY the USA vs IRAQ.
the "rants" of GW BUSH against IRAQ leading up the war are
almost word for word the same as those used by CATO the elder
against CARTHAGE. ............ ....
the romans didn't exactly seek empire, they had it thrust upon
them, as have we. .. the roman constitution was ill suited to
running an empire, as is ours. .. .... .... we need to keep in
mind the reasons of THEIR failure of republic, and decent into
a "kingship" (emporer) and be on gaurd for ourselves. ...
the framers of OUR constitution had an intimate knowledge of
all this, and got their ideas of a three part government from
CICERO, a politician of the late republic, who got some of HIS
ideas from CARTHAGE itself. ....... ..
if we choose to be ignorant of the lessons of history, we are
DOOMED to repeat them.
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Best regards,
Bill mailto:pythias@pacifier.com
"66 Sprite
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