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Re: [Spridgets] Steel grades

To: <dwoerpel@wi.net>, <spridgets@autox.team.net>, "Tim Collins" <thcollin@mtu.edu>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Steel grades
From: "GUY DAY" <grday@btinternet.com>
Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2012 21:23:26 -0000
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References: <32852.173.111.83.155.1352771987.squirrel@wm.wi.net> <20121113200345.652952D064D@autox.team.net>
So the concrete block chiselled out in the 3 legged shape of the 'muffler' 
jack whose design exceeds the specs isn't much good then?


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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tim Collins" <thcollin@mtu.edu>
To: <dwoerpel@wi.net>; <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2012 8:00 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Steel grades


> When I was teaching at the U I purchased 2 muffler type jack stands
> to test to failure. We had a 120,000 universal test machine (big
> press).to test them on. The jacks were made of muffler tubing (that
> style) with the base circumference cut into thirds and then splayed
> out to make the three feet or legs of the jack. Those legs were held
> together at the very bottom by metal straps welded between legs. The
> upper part of the base had holes at various heights for adjustments.
> The second part that slides inside the base pipe was just a pipe with
> holes for the adjustment and an upper most saddle onto which the axle 
> sits.
>
> We loaded the jack up to 6000lbs - the rated capacity - with no
> problem. We kept going until failure. I wish I remembered all the
> numbers, but that was a long time ago. What I do remember is that the
> jack legs failed first - they buckled. However there was plenty of
> warning that the jack was being crushed and the jack still was
> holding an appreciable load. Now remember that there was a slow
> steady load applied - no impact and the load was applied
> perpendicular to the support surface. No crazy offset loading or
> impact loads. All in all the jacks performed within the specs and
> well beyond. Now don't be silly and use muffler pipe jacks to support
> your D9 dozer just because they can carry more than 6000 lbs. OK? And
> don't even think of using a concrete block!!
>
>
> At 08:59 PM 11/12/2012, dwoerpel@wi.net wrote:
>>OK, metallurgists.  I'm looking at a set of jack stands and the pins
>>are made of #20 steel.  What does that mean?  I've determined
>>it's probably a China grading but haven't been able to find anything (that
>>I could understand).  How does the numbering system show strength,
>>etc.?
>>
>>Just curious,
>>Dave W.
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