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Re: [Spridgets] Axle seal failure / wheel cylinder failure

To: Lester <oldsaabguy@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Axle seal failure / wheel cylinder failure
From: Allen Hefner via Spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2018 09:31:30 -0400
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I guess it's theoretically possible to prevent the seals from leaking at
all, if you simply don't put any oil in the diff. Of course, driving the
car then becomes less attractive or problematic. But it could work for a
trailer queen.

Allen Hefner
Norristown, PA
Sun City Center, FL

*Current:*
2016 Subaru outback somewhere
2006 Chebbie
*Former:*
1963 Sunbeam Alpine Series III
1967 Triumph TR4A IRS
1964 VW Type I
1967 VW Type II
1967 Rover 2000TC
1977 MG Midget (Sniff!)


On Thu, Sep 27, 2018 at 11:43 PM Lester via Spridgets <
spridgets@autox.team.net> wrote:

> And so it begins=E2=80=A6
>
> Remove the retaining screw, it has blue RTV on it.  I don=E2=80=99t use b=
lue RTV.
>
> Remove axle, NO seal.  NO =E2=80=9CO=E2=80=9D ring. No =E2=80=9CO=E2=80=
=9D ring groove.
>
> Now heading out to shop to get large socket to undo the hub retaining nut=
.
>
>
> Thoughts at this time lead to the fact that I have never replaced this
> side seal or bearing.  And that I now have 2 =E2=80=9CO=E2=80=9D rings th=
at are not worth
> returning.  And that this thing has not leaked significantly with no seal
> of any kind in place OR all of the diff oil leaked out early on and I am
> lucky that I didn=E2=80=99t drive cross country with it like this .
>
> Lester
>
>
> On Sep 24, 2018, at 9:08 AM, Allen Hefner <lbc77mg@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> And Bob's your uncle. (I love saying that!)
>
> Allen Hefner
> Norristown, PA
> Sun City Center. FL
>
> *Current:*
> 2016 Subaru outback somewhere
> 2006 Chebbie
> *Former:*
> 1963 Sunbeam Alpine Series III
> 1967 Triumph TR4A IRS
> 1964 VW Type I
> 1967 VW Type II
> 1967 Rover 2000TC
> 1977 MG Midget (Sniff!)
>
>
> On Sun, Sep 23, 2018 at 12:48 PM Lester via Spridgets <
> spridgets@autox.team.net> wrote:
>
>> So, a search of the 10,807 messages I still keep on my machine (Yes,
>> really.) indicated that I asked the same questions in 2009.
>>
>> In 9 years has anything changed?  Are there new seals that are the bees
>> knees?  I don=E2=80=99t think that I need new bearings as the miles are =
low enough.
>>
>> Just to be sure I need to:
>>
>> Undo the retaining screw
>>
>> Lever the axle out and free of the hub
>>
>> Undo lock washer
>>
>> Undo hub nut
>>
>> Jury rig a device to pull hub
>>
>> Pull out seal
>>
>> Install new seal
>>
>> Reinstall hub, lock washer,nut  (Any tips welcome, all the video shows
>> work with rear end removed from car.)
>>
>> Install new =E2=80=9CO=E2=80=9D ring
>>
>> Install new paper gasket
>>
>> Install axle
>>
>> Congratulate myself on a job well done?
>>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">I guess it&#39;s theoretically possible to prevent the sea=
ls from leaking at all, if you simply don&#39;t put any oil in the diff. Of=
 course, driving the car then becomes less attractive or problematic. But i=
t could work for a trailer queen.=C2=A0<br clear=3D"all"><div><div dir=3D"l=
tr" class=3D"gmail_signature" data-smartmail=3D"gmail_signature"><div dir=
=3D"ltr"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div><br></div><div>Allen Hefner</div>
<div>Norristown, PA</div><div>Sun City Center, FL</div>
<div>=C2=A0</div>
<div><em>Current:</em></div>
<div>2016 Subaru outback somewhere</div><div>2006 Chebbie</div>
<div><em>Former:</em></div>
<div>1963 Sunbeam Alpine Series III</div>
<div>1967 Triumph TR4A IRS</div>
<div>1964 VW Type I</div>
<div>1967 VW Type II</div>
<div>1967 Rover 2000TC</div>
<div>1977 MG Midget (Sniff!)</div></div></div></div></div></div></div><br><=
/div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr">On Thu, Sep 27, 2018 a=
t 11:43 PM Lester via Spridgets &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:spridgets@autox.team.=
net">spridgets@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"=
gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-=
left:1ex"><div style=3D"word-wrap:break-word">And so it begins=E2=80=A6<div=
><br></div><div>Remove the retaining screw, it has blue RTV on it.=C2=A0 I =
don=E2=80=99t use blue RTV. =C2=A0</div><div><br></div><div>Remove axle, NO=
 seal.=C2=A0 NO =E2=80=9CO=E2=80=9D ring. No =E2=80=9CO=E2=80=9D ring groov=
e.</div><div><br></div><div>Now heading out to shop to get large socket to =
undo the hub retaining nut. =C2=A0</div><div><br></div><div>Thoughts at thi=
s time lead to the fact that I have never replaced this side seal or bearin=
g.=C2=A0 And that I now have 2 =E2=80=9CO=E2=80=9D rings that are not worth=
 returning.=C2=A0 And that this thing has not leaked significantly with no =
seal of any kind in place OR all of the diff oil leaked out early on and I =
am lucky that I didn=E2=80=99t drive cross country with it like this .</div=
><div><br></div><div>Lester</div><div><br></div><div><br><div><blockquote t=
ype=3D"cite"><div>On Sep 24, 2018, at 9:08 AM, Allen Hefner &lt;<a href=3D"=
mailto:lbc77mg@gmail.com"; target=3D"_blank">lbc77mg@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote=
:</div><br class=3D"m_2007231947682958241Apple-interchange-newline"><div><d=
iv dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-family:Helvetica;font-size:16px;font-style:nor=
mal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-=
align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spa=
cing:0px">And Bob&#39;s your uncle. (I love saying that!)<div><br clear=3D"=
all"><div><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"m_2007231947682958241gmail_signature" d=
ata-smartmail=3D"gmail_signature"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div>Allen Hefner</=
div><div>Norristown, PA</div><div>Sun City Center. FL</div><div>=C2=A0</div=
><div><em>Current:</em></div><div>2016 Subaru outback somewhere</div><div>2=
006 Chebbie</div><div><em>Former:</em></div><div>1963 Sunbeam Alpine Series=
 III</div><div>1967 Triumph TR4A IRS</div><div>1964 VW Type I</div><div>196=
7 VW Type II</div><div>1967 Rover 2000TC</div><div>1977 MG Midget (Sniff!)<=
/div></div></div></div></div><br></div></div><br style=3D"font-family:Helve=
tica;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:=
normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transfor=
m:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px"><div class=3D"gmail_quote" styl=
e=3D"font-family:Helvetica;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ca=
ps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-in=
dent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px"><div dir=
=3D"ltr">On Sun, Sep 23, 2018 at 12:48 PM Lester via Spridgets &lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:spridgets@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank">spridgets@autox.team=
.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"mar=
gin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,2=
04);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">So, a search of the 10,807 me=
ssages I still keep on my machine (Yes, really.) indicated that I asked the=
 same questions in 2009.=C2=A0<span class=3D"m_2007231947682958241Apple-con=
verted-space">=C2=A0</span><br><br>In 9 years has anything changed?=C2=A0 A=
re there new seals that are the bees knees?=C2=A0 I don=E2=80=99t think tha=
t I need new bearings as the miles are low enough.<br><br>Just to be sure I=
 need to:<br><br>Undo the retaining screw<br><br>Lever the axle out and fre=
e of the hub<br><br>Undo lock washer<br><br>Undo hub nut<br><br>Jury rig a =
device to pull hub<span class=3D"m_2007231947682958241Apple-converted-space=
">=C2=A0</span><br><br>Pull out seal<br><br>Install new seal<br><br>Reinsta=
ll hub, lock washer,nut=C2=A0 (Any tips welcome, all the video shows work w=
ith rear end removed from car.)<br><br>Install new =E2=80=9CO=E2=80=9D ring=
<br><br>Install new paper gasket<span class=3D"m_2007231947682958241Apple-c=
onverted-space">=C2=A0</span><br><br>Install axle<br><br>Congratulate mysel=
f on a job well done?<br><br>------------------------<br><br><a href=3D"mai=
lto:spridgets@autox.team.net" target=3D"_blank">spridgets@autox.team.net</a=
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