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Re: [Spridgets] Trying to diagnose an idle/stalling issue

To: "crusaderchuck55@aol.com" <crusaderchuck55@aol.com>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Trying to diagnose an idle/stalling issue
From: "Kurtis J. via Spridgets" <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2020 12:11:06 -0600
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I think I've found the issue.  There is a vacuum leak where the intake
manifold mates to the cylinder head.  I had recently had the head off the
engine and apparently didn't get something quite right when I put it all
back together.  The only leak I could find was near the front of the engine
affecting the front carburettor.

I plan to remove the intake manifold and replace the manifold gasket.  Is
there some special precaution/prep I should follow to ensure success?

Thanks for your help.

Kurt

On Sat, Dec 26, 2020 at 6:20 PM Kurtis J. <tr4driver@gmail.com> wrote:

> Thanks for the tips Chuck.  Hopefully I'll get the chance tomorrow to do
> some additional testing.
>
> Kurt
>
> On Sat, Dec 26, 2020 at 5:39 PM crusaderchuck55--- via Spridgets <
> spridgets@autox.team.net> wrote:
>
>> Sounds like you are hunting for a vacume leak.    From your description
>> it does not act like an electrical issue.   BUT!  BEFORE you mess with too
>> much of you are still running points check 2 things!!   Be certain your
>> points are clean ( they grow some kind of crud) and you have a proper gap.
>> If that's all good OR you have electronic ignition I suspect you are
>> hitting a temporary lean on fuel situation mostly due to some kind of
>> vacume leak.  Look for a vacume line to the distributor literally cracked.
>> Or there is an old stand by vacume leak check....  Use some choke spray
>> with the car running and spray around the intake manifold to head gasket or
>> the carb spacers gaskets.   If you get a pick up in RPM'S you just sprayed
>> the "leak" area.
>> A simple check is to be certain the intake to head nuts are tight and
>> snug the 4 nuts retaining the carbs on the intake manifold.
>> Share your findings once you had some tinker time.
>> Chuck
>>
>> *Sent from my LG Mobile*
>>
>> ------ Original message------
>> *From: *Kurtis J. via Spridgets
>> *Date: *Sat, Dec 26, 2020 5:36 PM
>> *To: *Spridgets (E-mail);
>> *Cc: *
>> *Subject:*[Spridgets] Trying to diagnose an idle/stalling issue
>>
>> Greetings everyone.  I was semi-active on this list several (like 10)
>> years ago.  I have a 1959 Bugeye with a 1275 engine that had up until last
>> month been sitting dormant in my basement garage.& nbsp; I have the car
>> back on the road and running fairly well, but I am dealing with an idle
>> issue.
>>
>> The card starts fine and will idle fine after it warms up; however, when
>> coming to a stop, the idle drops to a point where the engine will stall if
>> I don't give it a little gas.  After it catches back up, the car will go
>> back to idling fine.  Right now I have the idle set at about 1,000 rpms.
>>
>> The plugs on the car look good, so I think the mixture is fine.  I have
>> played with the timing a little as well.  Any suggestions as to where else
>> to look?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> --
>> Kurt Jones
>> Conway, Arkansas
>> 1963 TR4 - CT19389L
>> 1959 AH Bugeye - AN5L23250
>>
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>
> --
> Kurt Jones
> Conway, Arkansas
> 1963 TR4 - CT19389L
> 1959 AH Bugeye - AN5L23250
>
>

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Kurt Jones
Conway, Arkansas
1963 TR4 - CT19389L
1959 AH Bugeye - AN5L23250

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<div dir=3D"ltr">I think I&#39;ve found the issue.=C2=A0 There is a vacuum=
=C2=A0leak where the intake manifold mates to the cylinder head.=C2=A0 I ha=
d recently had the head off the engine and apparently didn&#39;t get someth=
ing quite right when I put it all back together.=C2=A0 The only leak I coul=
d find was near the front of the engine affecting the front carburettor.<di=
v><br></div><div>I plan to remove the intake manifold and replace the manif=
old gasket.=C2=A0 Is there some special precaution/prep I should follow to =
ensure success?</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks for your help.</div><div><b=
r></div><div>Kurt</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr=
" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sat, Dec 26, 2020 at 6:20 PM Kurtis J. &lt;<a hre=
f=3D"mailto:tr4driver@gmail.com";>tr4driver@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></di=
v><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;borde=
r-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">Thanks=
 for the tips Chuck.=C2=A0 Hopefully I&#39;ll get the chance tomorrow to do=
 some additional testing.<div><br></div><div>Kurt</div></div><br><div class=
=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sat, Dec 26, 2020=
 at 5:39 PM crusaderchuck55--- via Spridgets &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:spridget=
s@autox.team.net" target=3D"_blank">spridgets@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:=
<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8=
ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">







<div>
    <div style=3D"font-size:10pt"><div dir=3D"auto">Sounds like you are hun=
ting for a vacume leak.=C2=A0 =C2=A0 From your description it does not act =
like an electrical issue.=C2=A0 =C2=A0BUT!=C2=A0 BEFORE you mess with too m=
uch of you are still running points check 2 things!!=C2=A0 =C2=A0Be certain=
 your points are clean ( they grow some kind of crud) and you have a proper=
 gap.=C2=A0 If that&#39;s all good OR you have electronic ignition I suspec=
t you are hitting a temporary lean on fuel situation mostly due to some kin=
d of vacume leak.=C2=A0 Look for a vacume line to the distributor literally=
 cracked.=C2=A0 Or there is an old stand by vacume leak check....=C2=A0 Use=
 some choke spray with the car running and spray around the intake manifold=
 to head gasket or the carb spacers gaskets.=C2=A0 =C2=A0If you get a pick =
up in RPM&#39;S you just sprayed the &quot;leak&quot; area.</div><div dir=
=3D"auto">A simple check is to be certain the intake to head nuts are tight=
 and snug the 4 nuts retaining the carbs on the
  intake manifold.=C2=A0 =C2=A0</div><div dir=3D"auto">Share your findings =
once you had some tinker time.</div><div dir=3D"auto">Chuck</div><div dir=
=3D"auto"><br></div><div><div dir=3D"auto" style=3D"font-size:9pt"><i>Sent =
from my LG Mobile</i></div></div></div><div style=3D"font-size:10pt"><div i=
d=3D"gmail-m_-5853231580146483280gmail-m_1091590049713224254LGEmailHeader" =
dir=3D"auto"><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">------ Original =
message------</div><div dir=3D"auto"><b>From: </b>Kurtis J. via Spridgets<u=
></u><u></u></div><div dir=3D"auto"><b>Date: </b>Sat, Dec 26, 2020 5:36 PM<=
/div><div dir=3D"auto"><b>To: </b>Spridgets (E-mail);</div><div dir=3D"auto=
"><b>Cc: </b></div><div dir=3D"auto"><b>Subject:</b>[Spridgets] Trying to d=
iagnose an idle/stalling issue</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div></div><div =
dir=3D"ltr">Greetings=C2=A0everyone.=C2=A0 I was semi-active on this list s=
everal (like 10) years ago.=C2=A0 I have a 1959 Bugeye with a 1275 engine t=
hat had up until last month been sitting dormant in my basement garage.&amp=
;
 nbsp; I have the car back on the road and running fairly well, but I am de=
aling with an idle issue.<div><br></div><div>The card starts fine and will =
idle fine after it warms up; however, when coming to a stop, the idle drops=
 to a point where the engine will stall if I don&#39;t give it a little gas=
.=C2=A0 After it catches back up, the car will go back to idling fine.=C2=
=A0 Right now I have the idle set at about 1,000 rpms.</div><div><br></div>=
<div>The plugs on the car look good, so I think the mixture is fine.=C2=A0 =
I have played with the timing=C2=A0a little as well.=C2=A0 Any suggestions =
as to where else to look?</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks,</div><div>-- <br=
><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr">Kurt Jones<br>Conway, Arkansas<br>1963 T=
R4 - CT19389L<br>1959 AH Bugeye - AN5L23250<br><br></div></div></div></div>
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1959 AH Bugeye - AN5L23250<br><br></div></div>
</blockquote></div><br clear=3D"all"><div><br></div>-- <br><div dir=3D"ltr"=
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