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If the steering arms are inverted then for the tie rod ends to attach to =
the taper they would have to be above the arm instead of the proper =
below the arm attachment. Thus that should be easy to determine. In any =
case right side up, or upside down that alone should not cause rubbing =
as they would be equally right or wrong. This would also help to rule =
out having two left of right steering arms because it would cause a =
situation where one tie rod end is above the arm and the other below.
As I stated earlier and Mark Rense did today the possibility exists that =
the rack is not centered. By that we don=E2=80=99t mean in the rack =
clamps themselves. Rather the rack only has a certain length of travel. =
If that travel is not centered...., and then the tie rod ends adjusted =
to align the wheels, the car can steer further in one direction than the =
other and potentially cause the rubbing issues. This too can be easily =
checked by putting a piece of tape on the top of the steering wheel when =
the front wheels are in a direct forward position. Turn full left, then =
full right and observe if at the end of each direction the tape is in a =
relative opposing position (meaning 9 O=E2=80=99clock =E2=80=93 3 =
O=E2=80=99clock or some similar combination such as 11-1, 10-2, 9-3, =
8-4, 7-5. If not then the rack is likely not centered. This can easily =
be fixed by detaching the steering U-joint and correcting. It will also =
requires re-adjusting the tie rod ends.
If you had previously been running smaller wheel/tires you may have =
never noticed this, but the new, larger wheels/tires are now making this =
situation evident. Thus it can create a confusing, =E2=80=9CWhere did =
this come from.=E2=80=9D
From: Joel Martin via Tigers=20
Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2016 3:46 PM
To: Tiger ; Tiger List Serve=20
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Steering Arm
Lot of good nformation but need some 1 to 1 confirmation.
LHD, 66 MK 1A, steering arms, 1990602 on right(passenger) and 1990603 on =
left (drivers) - is this correct?
I will check all ideas presented but would like to know I have the =
correct steering arms definitely on the correct side.
Thanks all
Joel Martin
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To: Joel Martin <jmartiniii@yahoo.com>; Tiger List Serve =
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Sent: Tuesday, February 2, 2016 6:58 PM
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Steering Arm
Joel,
O/S and N/S stand respectively for Operator Side and Navigator Side. =
These are RHD designations, thus the parenthetic R.H. and L.H.
Will - 382001570=20
Tigers@embarqmail.com
From: Joel Martin via Tigers=20
Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2016 5:19 PM
To: Tiger List Serve=20
Subject: [Tigers] Steering Arm
All
I am officially confused but what else is new. New 15" LAT wheels and =
205/50/15 tires installed. Turn the wheel to the right, everything =
clears nicely both wheels\tires or so I think. Turn the wheel to the =
left, the RIGHT tire hits the bolt for the tie rod at the junction of =
the steering rack and tie rod bolt plus the front sway bar bracket and =
rubber bushing - the one closest to lower control arm by bottom bolt
I had issues with the right, I think, steering arm, which had been =
welded by a previous owner and replaced it with what I thought was =
correct one - I did not write down the numbers of the steering arms that =
were used and cannot see them on the car - now went out, jacked up car =
and checked. Numbers facing down 1990602 on right and think 1990603 on =
left
In checking the tiger parts list, it shows 1224640 as the steering Arm, =
O/S (R.H.) and 1224641 as the steering arm, N/S (L.H.) - not sure what =
O/S and N/S stand for?
Parts list for Alpine steering arm from Series IV shows 1206258 O/S =
(R.H.) and 1206259 N.S. (L.H.)
Here is the kicker regarding numbers: Old welded number (R.H.I think =
right) 1990603 and on a second line 17300AJGSBEN16T
One I purchased which I did not use is 1990602 JG6B17299A2EN16T - all on =
1 line on the steering arm, I thought was left but now not sure and =
purchased another one used.
1. What is the correct part numbers on the actual steering arm for =
right and left?
2. Which direction does the tall middle bolt side face - outside or =
inside when mounted?
2. Could this possibly be the right tire rub issue? or other things to =
check?
Struggling
Joel Martin
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<DIV>If the steering arms are inverted then for the tie rod ends to =
attach to=20
the taper they would have to be above the arm instead of the proper =
below the=20
arm attachment. Thus that should be easy to determine. In any case right =
side=20
up, or upside down that alone should not cause rubbing as they would be =
equally=20
right or wrong. This would also help to rule out having two left =
of right=20
steering arms because it would cause a situation where one tie rod end =
is above=20
the arm and the other below.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>As I stated earlier and Mark Rense did today the possibility exists =
that=20
the rack is not centered. By that we don=E2=80=99t mean in the =
rack clamps=20
themselves. Rather the rack only has a certain length of travel. If that =
travel=20
is not centered...., and then the tie rod ends adjusted to align the =
wheels, the=20
car can steer further in one direction than the other and potentially =
cause the=20
rubbing issues. This too can be easily checked by putting a piece of =
tape on the=20
top of the steering wheel when the front wheels are in a direct forward=20
position. Turn full left, then full right and observe if at the =
end of=20
each direction the tape is in a relative opposing position (meaning 9 =
O=E2=80=99clock =E2=80=93=20
3 O=E2=80=99clock or some similar combination such as 11-1, 10-2, 9-3, =
8-4, 7-5. =20
If not then the rack is likely not centered. This can easily be fixed by =
detaching the steering U-joint and correcting. It will also requires=20
re-adjusting the tie rod ends.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>If you had previously been running smaller wheel/tires you may have =
never=20
noticed this, but the new, larger wheels/tires are now making this =
situation=20
evident. Thus it can create a confusing, =E2=80=9CWhere did this =
come from.=E2=80=9D</DIV>
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<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, February 03, 2016 3:46 PM</DIV>
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<DIV id=3Dyui_3_16_0_1_1454503759053_99353><SPAN=20
id=3Dyui_3_16_0_1_1454503759053_99369>Lot of good nformation but need =
some 1 to 1=20
confirmation.</SPAN></DIV>
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id=3Dyui_3_16_0_1_1454503759053_99369></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV id=3Dyui_3_16_0_1_1454503759053_99385 dir=3Dltr><SPAN=20
id=3Dyui_3_16_0_1_1454503759053_99369>LHD, 66 MK 1A, steering arms, =
</SPAN>1990602=20
on right(passenger) and 1990603 on left (drivers) - is this =
correct?</DIV>
<DIV id=3Dyui_3_16_0_1_1454503759053_99418 dir=3Dltr> </DIV>
<DIV id=3Dyui_3_16_0_1_1454503759053_99416 dir=3Dltr>I will check all =
ideas=20
presented but would like to know I have the correct steering arms =
definitely on=20
the correct side.</DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr> </DIV>
<DIV id=3Dyui_3_16_0_1_1454503759053_99455 dir=3Dltr>Thanks all</DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr>Joel Martin<BR></DIV>
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<B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B> Tiger=20
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<BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Tuesday, =
February 2,=20
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<DIV id=3Dyui_3_16_0_1_1454503759053_99464><FONT=20
id=3Dyui_3_16_0_1_1454503759053_99463 size=3D4>O/S and N/S stand =
respectively for=20
Operator Side and Navigator Side. These are RHD designations, thus =
the=20
parenthetic R.H. and L.H.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial'; COLOR: =
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<DIV id=3Dyiv0186386454yui_3_16_0_1_1454426853208_36448 dir=3Dltr>I am =
officially=20
confused but what else is new. New 15" LAT wheels and 205/50/15 =
tires=20
installed. Turn the wheel to the right, everything clears nicely =
both=20
wheels\tires or so I think. Turn the wheel to the left, the RIGHT =
tire=20
hits the bolt for the tie rod at the junction of the steering rack and =
tie rod=20
bolt plus the front sway bar bracket and rubber bushing - the one =
closest to=20
lower control arm by bottom bolt<BR clear=3Dnone></DIV>
<DIV id=3Dyiv0186386454yui_3_16_0_1_1454426853208_36467 =
dir=3Dltr> </DIV>
<DIV id=3Dyiv0186386454yui_3_16_0_1_1454426853208_36575 dir=3Dltr>
<DIV id=3Dyiv0186386454yui_3_16_0_1_1454448335399_3156 dir=3Dltr>I had =
issues with=20
the right, I think, steering arm, which had been welded by a previous =
owner and=20
replaced it with what I thought was correct one - I did not write down =
the=20
numbers of the steering arms that were used and cannot see them on the =
car - now=20
went out, jacked up car and checked. Numbers facing down 1990602 =
on right=20
and think 1990603 on left</DIV></DIV>
<DIV id=3Dyiv0186386454yui_3_16_0_1_1454426853208_36577 =
dir=3Dltr> </DIV>
<DIV id=3Dyiv0186386454yui_3_16_0_1_1454426853208_36576 dir=3Dltr>In =
checking the=20
tiger parts list, it shows 1224640 as the steering Arm, O/S (R.H.) =
and=20
1224641 as the steering arm, N/S (L.H.) - not sure what O/S and N/S =
stand=20
for?</DIV>
<DIV id=3Dyiv0186386454yui_3_16_0_1_1454426853208_36586 =
dir=3Dltr> </DIV>
<DIV id=3Dyiv0186386454yui_3_16_0_1_1454426853208_36587 dir=3Dltr>Parts =
list for=20
Alpine steering arm from Series IV shows 1206258 O/S (R.H.) =
and=20
1206259 N.S. (L.H.)</DIV>
<DIV id=3Dyiv0186386454yui_3_16_0_1_1454426853208_36589 =
dir=3Dltr> </DIV>
<DIV id=3Dyiv0186386454yui_3_16_0_1_1454426853208_36621 dir=3Dltr>Here =
is the kicker=20
regarding numbers: Old welded number (R.H.I think right) 1990603 =
and on a=20
second line 17300AJGSBEN16T</DIV>
<DIV id=3Dyiv0186386454yui_3_16_0_1_1454426853208_36689 dir=3Dltr>One I =
purchased=20
which I did not use is 1990602 JG6B17299A2EN16T - all on 1 line on the =
steering=20
arm, I thought was left but now not sure and purchased another one =
used.<BR=20
clear=3Dnone></DIV>
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<DIV id=3Dyiv0186386454yui_3_16_0_1_1454448335399_3004>1. What is =
the=20
correct part numbers on the actual steering arm for right and =
left?</DIV>
<DIV id=3Dyiv0186386454yui_3_16_0_1_1454448335399_3062>2. Which =
direction=20
does the tall middle bolt side face - outside or inside when mounted?<BR =
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<DIV id=3Dyiv0186386454yui_3_16_0_1_1454448335399_2592>2. Could =
this=20
possibly be the right tire rub issue? or other things to =
check?</DIV>
<DIV id=3Dyiv0186386454yui_3_16_0_1_1454448335399_3063> </DIV>
<DIV id=3Dyiv0186386454yui_3_16_0_1_1454448335399_3265>Struggling</DIV>
<DIV id=3Dyiv0186386454yui_3_16_0_1_1454448335399_3158>Joel Martin<BR=20
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