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David=20
Thanks again for the pictures.
=20
I did find a picture on line for a B7C-17285-A1 with a D0TZ-A notation =
6T and it was green.
=20
It would be nice for anyone working on their transmission, Mk I and Mk =
II, to take a picture of this gear to verify all of this.
=20
Ron Fraser
=20
From: D or G at sbc [mailto:orr4sale@sbcglobal.net]=20
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2016 11:53 AM
To: Ron Fraser <rfraser@bluefrog.com>; tigers@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Tigers] FW: Speed Driven Gear Questions have...
=20
I thought I remembered buying the Tiger speedometer gears a long time =
ago so I went through my parts and found them, thought the list might be =
interested in pictures, and the info. I have written down for them, =
don't remember where I got the info.
=20
Speedo Driving Gear Wheel Gear (on trans.)
MKI Rootes 6100261 / Ford B7C-17285-A replaced by D0TZ-17285-A (6 teeth)
MKII Rootes 6100710 / Ford C2OZ-17285-D replaced by C3OZ-17285-C (7 =
teeth)
---
Speedo Driving Pinion (on speedo cable)
MKI Rootes 6100504 15 teeth C3OA-17271-A replaced by C0DD-17271-A =
replaced by C0DZ-17271-A (16T)=20
MKII Rootes 6100703 17 teeth C3DZ-17271-B
=20
I have most of these numbers (pictures attached below).=20
The D0TZ-17285-A (6 teeth) is missing from my box, I don't remember =
using it, but I believe it was green nylon. The C3OZ-17285-C is steel (7 =
teeth).
The C0DD-17271-A replaced by C0DZ-17271-A (16T) are odd in that both =
gears are wine colored and marked 16T the gear shape is a little =
different. The MKII gear is marked 6 17R, the dark highlight was done =
by Ford, not me, guess to make it easier to read, the other colored =
gears are not highlighted and are hard to read, don't know why they =
didn't highlight them with white.
My notes state add 5 MPH for each tooth. 15T 16T 17T
=20
David Franchi
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Forgot to add Tiger List again
My bad
Ron
-----Original Message-----
From: Ron Fraser [mailto:rfraser@bluefrog.com =
Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2016 12:33 PM
Subject: RE: [Tigers] Speed Driven Gear Questions have...
The Part List indicates B7C-17285-A - 6T for the Mk I with a 15T
C3OA-17271-A gear on the speedo cable which turns a 980 revs / mile
speedometer
I have no Ford part # for the Mk II - the cable gear is listed as 17T =
which
leds me to believe the tail shaft gear is a 7T gear and I believe the Mk =
II
has a 1020 revs/ mile speedometer.
What we really need is someone to document exactly what is used in the =
Mk I
and Mk II Transmission with pictures.
I know the Alpine has other revs/ mile speedometers but I'm not sure if =
the
Tiger has any others.
General and Repair information about Smiths speedometers - search for
Anthony Rhodes article - Repairing Jaeger & Smiths Speedometers Odometer
gears can be purchased @ OdometerGears.com
Ron Fraser
-----Original Message-----
From: Tigers [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net =
via Tigers
Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2016 9:09 AM
Cc: Larry Mayfield via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net =
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Speed Driven Gear Questions have...
I believe the Tiger is 6 teeth. 7 is the other common size.
Other useful info is the Tiger speedo takes 980 revolutions to rack up 1
mile on the odometer. Its printed on the face of the speedo in a really
small font.
---- Larry Mayfield via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net =
>=20
>=20
> sparked one from me. What is the number of teeth on the drive gear =
itself?
> The one that is on the actual output shaft of the transmission? I=20
> suspect there can be a couple of them that could be used. With that=20
> gear count and the driven gears available it becomes fairly easy to=20
> determine which speedo cable driven gear is best for the car=20
> parameters, like tire size, final drive rations etc.
>=20
> mayf
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<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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Thanks again for the pictures.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
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o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>I did find a =
picture on line for a B7C-17285-A1 with a D0TZ-A notation 6T and it was =
green.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </=
o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>It would be =
nice for anyone working on their transmission, Mk I and Mk II, to take a =
picture of this gear to verify all of this.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </=
o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span><=
/b><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> D =
or G at sbc [mailto:orr4sale@sbcglobal.net] <br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, =
December 07, 2016 11:53 AM<br><b>To:</b> Ron Fraser =
<rfraser@bluefrog.com>; tigers@autox.team.net<br><b>Subject:</b> =
Re: [Tigers] FW: Speed Driven Gear Questions =
have...<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div =
id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1481122353886_70230"><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'=
>I thought I remembered buying the Tiger speedometer gears a long time =
ago so I went through my parts and found them, thought the list might be =
interested in pictures, and the info. I have written down for them, =
don't remember where I got the info.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div =
id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1481122353886_70231"><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'=
><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div =
id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1481122353886_70233"><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'=
>Speedo Driving Gear Wheel Gear (on =
trans.)<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div =
id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1481122353886_70234"><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'=
>MKI Rootes 6100261 / Ford B7C-17285-A replaced by D0TZ-17285-A (6 =
teeth)<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div =
id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1481122353886_70235"><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'=
>MKII Rootes 6100710 / Ford C2OZ-17285-D replaced by C3OZ-17285-C (7 =
teeth)<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div =
id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1481122353886_70236"><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:white'><span =
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>Speedo Driving Pinion (on speedo cable)<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div =
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style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'=
>MKI Rootes 6100504 15 teeth C3OA-17271-A replaced by C0DD-17271-A =
replaced by C0DZ-17271-A (16T) <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div =
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style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'=
>MKII Rootes 6100703 17 teeth =
C3DZ-17271-B<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div =
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id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1481122353886_70242"><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'=
>I have most of these numbers (pictures attached below). =
<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div =
id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1481122353886_70244"><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'=
>The D0TZ-17285-A (6 teeth) is missing from my box, I don't remember =
using it, but I believe it was green nylon. The C3OZ-17285-C is steel (7 =
teeth).<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div =
id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1481122353886_70245"><div =
id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1481122353886_70246"><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'=
>The C0DD-17271-A replaced by C0DZ-17271-A (16T) are odd in that both =
gears are wine colored and marked 16T the gear shape is a little =
different. The MKII gear is marked 6 17R, the dark highlight was =
done by Ford, not me, guess to make it easier to read, the other colored =
gears are not highlighted and are hard to read, don't know why they =
didn't highlight them with white.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div =
id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1481122353886_70247"><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'=
>My notes state add 5 MPH for each tooth. 15T 16T =
17T<o:p></o:p></span></p><div =
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style=3D'background:white'><span =
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>David Franchi<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div><div =
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style=3D'margin-bottom:.25in;background:white'><span =
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><br>Forgot to add Tiger List again<br>My =
bad<br>Ron<br><br>-----Original Message-----<br>From: Ron Fraser =
[mailto:<a =
href=3D"mailto:rfraser@bluefrog.com";>rfraser@bluefrog.com</a>] <br>Sent: =
Tuesday, December 06, 2016 12:33 PM<br>To: '<a =
href=3D"mailto:e.coiner@cox.net"; =
id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1481122353886_70327">e.coiner@cox.net</a>' =
<<a href=3D"mailto:e.coiner@cox.net";>e.coiner@cox.net</a>>; 'Larry =
Mayfield'<br><<a =
href=3D"mailto:drmayf@mayfco.com";>drmayf@mayfco.com</a>><br>Subject: =
RE: [Tigers] Speed Driven Gear Questions have...<br><br>The Part List =
indicates B7C-17285-A - 6T for the Mk I with a 15T<br>C3OA-17271-A gear =
on the speedo cable which turns a 980 revs / =
mile<br>speedometer<br><br>I have no Ford part # for the Mk II - the =
cable gear is listed as 17T which<br>leds me to believe the tail shaft =
gear is a 7T gear and I believe the Mk II<br>has a 1020 revs/ mile =
speedometer.<br><br>What we really need is someone to document exactly =
what is used in the Mk I<br>and Mk II Transmission with =
pictures.<br><br>I know the Alpine has other revs/ mile speedometers but =
I'm not sure if the<br>Tiger has any others.<br><br>General and Repair =
information about Smiths speedometers - search for<br>Anthony Rhodes =
article - Repairing Jaeger & Smiths Speedometers Odometer<br>gears =
can be purchased @ OdometerGears.com<br><br>Ron =
Fraser<br><br>-----Original Message-----<br>From: Tigers [mailto:<a =
href=3D"mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net";>tigers-bounces@autox.team.n=
et</a>] On Behalf Of e.coiner---<br>via Tigers<br>Sent: Tuesday, =
December 06, 2016 9:09 AM<br>To: Larry Mayfield <<a =
href=3D"mailto:drmayf@mayfco.com";>drmayf@mayfco.com</a>><br>Cc: Larry =
Mayfield via Tigers <<a =
href=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net";>tigers@autox.team.net</a>><br>Su=
bject: Re: [Tigers] Speed Driven Gear Questions have...<br><br>I believe =
the Tiger is 6 teeth. 7 is the other common size.<br>Other useful info =
is the Tiger speedo takes 980 revolutions to rack up 1<br>mile on the =
odometer. Its printed on the face of the speedo in a really<br>small =
font.<br>---- Larry Mayfield via Tigers <<a =
href=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net";>tigers@autox.team.net</a>> =
wrote: <br>> <br>> <br>> sparked one from me. What is the =
number of teeth on the drive gear itself?<br>> The one that is on the =
actual output shaft of the transmission? I <br>> suspect there =
can be a couple of them that could be used. With that <br>> =
gear count and the driven gears available it becomes fairly easy to =
<br>> determine which speedo cable driven gear is best for the car =
<br>> parameters, like tire size, final drive rations etc.<br>> =
<br>> mayf<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
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