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To: Brian Glenn <ora_archy@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] clocks
From: michael king via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net>
Date: Wed, 13 May 2020 19:10:43 +1000
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The clocks were part of the Rootes factory approved options list. Parts
supllied by UK mfgs for rootes cars at their request or from existing
optional parts and often branded or boxed for rootes application.

Some of the factory options crossed over with LAT options:
LAT-1 Induction kits
LAT-69: Talbot "303" Sr. Bullet Mirro
<http://www.tigersunited.com/resources/parts_service/pp-lat69.asp>r
LAT-72: Motorola Radio Kit
<http://www.tigersunited.com/resources/parts_service/pp-lat72.asp>
LSD and traction bars,

These were available in the UK.. But most LAT parts were usa sourced and
designed to homologate performance parts for scca prod racing or dress-up
and merchandise bits for extra sales and PR and not comonly available in
the UK


On Wed., 13 May 2020, 18:47 Brian Glenn via Tigers, <tigers@autox.team.net>
wrote:

> Jim,
> Electric clocks were options, but not LAT.
> LAT were performance options.
> Rootes had a number of other options, such as seat belts, back up lights,
> cigar lighter, etc.
> The cost is listed as $24.
>
> Brian Glenn
> P.O. Box 578
> Julian, CA 92036-0578
> 714.345.9883
>
> B9470208LRXFE GT
> B9471101LRXFE
> B9472615LRXFE
> B382000846LRXFE
> B382001212LRXFE
>
>
> On Tuesday, May 12, 2020, 10:50:07 PM PDT, Jim B via Tigers <
> tigers@autox.team.net> wrote:
>
>
> I too have been following this thread. Interesting stuff. If the clocks
> were dealer installed, did they have a LAT number? I=E2=80=99ve never see=
n a clock
> on the lists of LAT options that I=E2=80=99ve seen. And, I wonder what th=
e cost was
> to have the clock installed. I think it has been established that clocks
> were not that common originally in Tigers or Alpines for that matter whic=
h
> makes me wonder if buyers looked at the options and decided a 4 bbl was
> money better spent. Also, if the 3030 was indeed never produced, and then
> was reproduced from legend, that would be amazing to me!
>
> On May 12, 2020, at 2:43 PM, jimdamelio via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net=
>
> wrote:
>
> Clyde, what you wrote is very true.  Rootes used what was available from
> their suppliers.  There weren't many factory installed options.  White
> walls, sunvisors, hardtop etc.  Most all of the factory options could be
> dealer installed.  So everyone was dependent on what was supplied to them=
.
>
> The clock thread began because some of us don't believe that a 3030/00
> exists.  I believe it was a typo in an article and people have run with
> it.  Even gone so far as reproducing the clock face with those numbers.  =
My
> thought are it should be 3131/00 for early Tigers and 3131/01 for later
> one.  I would like to see a picture of a clapped out 3030/00.
>
> Jim D
>
>
> Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.
>
>
> -------- Original message --------
> From: clyde mclaughlin via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net>
> Date: 5/12/20 4:35 PM (GMT-05:00)
> To: tigers@autox.team.net
> Subject: [Tigers] clocks
>
> I have watched all this clock talk for over a week now, I maybe missing
> something but my understanding was that the clock was a dealer installed
> accessory, not installed at the factory, am I right or wrong??  That bein=
g
> said, if the clocks were in fact dealer installed then couldn't you have =
an
> early clock installed in a late car depending on the dealers stock, or wh=
en
> stock was ordered from Rootes warehouse who's to say if it was always
> shipped out on in the order of production or receipt from supplier. I don=
't
> know which clock I have because I'm presently not where my car is to ck i=
t
> out, I do know it has been converted to quarts and keeps perfect time, Cl=
yde
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<div dir=3D"auto">The clocks were part of the Rootes factory approved optio=
ns list. Parts supllied by UK mfgs for rootes cars at their request or from=
 existing optional parts and often branded or boxed for rootes application.=
<div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">Some of the factory options c=
rossed over with LAT options:</div><div dir=3D"auto">LAT-1 Induction kits</=
div><div dir=3D"auto"><a href=3D"http://www.tigersunited.com/resources/part=
s_service/pp-lat69.asp" style=3D"">LAT-69: Talbot &quot;303&quot; Sr. Bulle=
t Mirro</a>r</div><div dir=3D"auto"><a href=3D"http://www.tigersunited.com/=
resources/parts_service/pp-lat72.asp">LAT-72: Motorola Radio Kit</a></div><=
div dir=3D"auto">LSD and traction bars,</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><d=
iv dir=3D"auto">These were available in the UK.. But most LAT parts were us=
a sourced and designed to homologate performance parts for scca prod racing=
 or dress-up and merchandise bits for extra sales and PR and not comonly av=
ailable in the UK</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div></div><br><div class=3D"=
gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Wed., 13 May 2020, 18=
:47 Brian Glenn via Tigers, &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net";>ti=
gers@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quot=
e" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">=
<div><div style=3D"font-family:Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;fo=
nt-size:16px"><div><div dir=3D"ltr">Jim,</div><div dir=3D"ltr">Electric clo=
cks were options, but not LAT.</div><div dir=3D"ltr">LAT were performance o=
ptions.</div><div dir=3D"ltr">Rootes had a number of other options, such as=
 seat belts, back up lights, cigar lighter, etc.</div><div dir=3D"ltr">The =
cost is listed as $24.</div><div><br></div><div>Brian Glenn<br> P.O. Box 57=
8<br> Julian, CA 92036-0578<br> 714.345.9883<br> <br> B9470208LRXFE GT<br> =
B9471101LRXFE <br> B9472615LRXFE <br> B382000846LRXFE <br> B382001212LRXFE<=
/div></div>
        <div><br></div><div><br></div>
       =20
        </div><div id=3D"m_-7880734159336441787yahoo_quoted_9666297388">
            <div style=3D"font-family:&#39;Helvetica Neue&#39;,Helvetica,Ar=
ial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;color:#26282a">
               =20
                <div>
                    On Tuesday, May 12, 2020, 10:50:07 PM PDT, Jim B via Ti=
gers &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"=
noreferrer">tigers@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:
                </div>
                <div><br></div>
                <div><br></div>
                <div><div id=3D"m_-7880734159336441787yiv5354144265"><div>I=
 too have been following this thread. Interesting stuff. If the clocks were=
 dealer installed, did they have a LAT number? I=E2=80=99ve never seen a cl=
ock on the lists of LAT options that I=E2=80=99ve seen. And, I wonder what =
the cost was to have the clock installed. I think it has been established t=
hat clocks were not that common originally in Tigers or Alpines for that ma=
tter which makes me wonder if buyers looked at the options and decided a 4 =
bbl was money better spent. Also, if the 3030 was indeed never produced, an=
d then was reproduced from legend, that would be amazing to me!=C2=A0<br><d=
iv><br><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div>On May 12, 2020, at 2:43 PM, jimdamel=
io via Tigers &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow noreferrer" href=3D"mailto:tigers@auto=
x.team.net" target=3D"_blank">tigers@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br=
><div><div><div>Clyde, what you wrote is very true.=C2=A0 Rootes used what =
was available from their suppliers.=C2=A0 There weren&#39;t many factory in=
stalled options.=C2=A0 White walls, sunvisors, hardtop etc.=C2=A0 Most all =
of the factory options could be dealer installed.=C2=A0 So everyone was dep=
endent on what was supplied to them.=C2=A0=C2=A0</div><div><br></div><div>T=
he clock thread began because some of us don&#39;t believe that a 3030/00 e=
xists.=C2=A0 I believe it was a typo in an article and people have run with=
 it.=C2=A0 Even gone so far as reproducing the clock face with those number=
s.=C2=A0 My thought are it should be 3131/00 for early Tigers and 3131/01 f=
or later one.=C2=A0 I would like to see a picture of a clapped out 3030/00.=
</div><div><br></div><div>Jim D</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div id=
=3D"m_-7880734159336441787yiv5354144265composer_signature"><div style=3D"fo=
nt-size:85%;color:#575757">Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.</div></d=
iv><div><br></div><div><br></div><div style=3D"font-size:100%"><div>-------=
- Original message --------</div><div>From: clyde mclaughlin via Tigers &lt=
;<a rel=3D"nofollow noreferrer" href=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net"; targe=
t=3D"_blank">tigers@autox.team.net</a>&gt; </div><div>Date: 5/12/20  4:35 P=
M  (GMT-05:00) </div><div>To: <a rel=3D"nofollow noreferrer" href=3D"mailto=
:tigers@autox.team.net" target=3D"_blank">tigers@autox.team.net</a> </div><=
div>Subject: [Tigers] clocks </div><div><br></div></div>
<div style=3D"font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;font-stretch:normal;font=
-size:10pt;line-height:normal;font-family:arial">I have watched all this cl=
ock talk for over a week now, I maybe missing something but my understandin=
g was that the clock was a dealer installed accessory, not installed at the=
 factory, am I right or wrong??=C2=A0 That being said, if the clocks were i=
n fact dealer installed then couldn&#39;t you have an early clock installed=
 in a late car depending on the dealers stock, or when stock was ordered fr=
om Rootes warehouse who&#39;s to say if it was always shipped out on in the=
 order of production or receipt from supplier. I don&#39;t know which clock=
 I have because I&#39;m presently not where my car is to ck it out, I do kn=
ow it has been converted to quarts and keeps perfect time, Clyde</div>
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