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Re: [Tigers] New paints

To: "rfraser@bluefrog.com" <rfraser@bluefrog.com>, "gammaman@mokancomm.net" <gammaman@mokancomm.net>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] New paints
From: Michael Wood via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net>
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2021 15:48:14 +0000 (UTC)
Cc: "blance598@gmail.com" <blance598@gmail.com>, "tigers@autox.team.net" <tigers@autox.team.net>
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Single stage is harder for most painters to lay down (easier to hide stuff =
with two stage) and also requires much more work if there are any correctio=
ns needed down the road. Two stage also results in a harder surface. But, n=
o doubt, single stage looks right on our cars. I went with two stage, no re=
grets.Mike


-----Original Message-----
From: Ron Fraser <rfraser@bluefrog.com>
To: 'Richard Bruner' <gammaman@mokancomm.net>
Cc: 'Lance Beauchamp' <blance598@gmail.com>; tigers@autox.team.net
Sent: Mon, Aug 30, 2021 8:08 am
Subject: Re: [Tigers] New paints

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Richard

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=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 You probably got those numbers from me.

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The problem is that at my paint shop those old numbers no longer translate =
to a paint mix.

Some paint shops may have those old paint codes and mixes available but mos=
t do not.

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Ron Fraser

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From: Richard Bruner <gammaman@mokancomm.net>=20
Sent: Monday, August 30, 2021 10:54 AM
To: Ron Fraser <rfraser@bluefrog.com>
Cc: 'Lance Beauchamp' <blance598@gmail.com>; tigers@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Tigers] New paints

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This is what I had saved from somewhere:

Ditzler code: 12633
Dulux enamel: 97365
Chrysler #: 75242838
Burger code: 404.1710
ICI: 2983


On Mon, August 30, 2021 9:32 am, Ron Fraser via Tigers wrote:
> Paint code 58 is Midnight Blue =C3=A2=E2=82=AC=E2=80=9C Ditzler # 12633
>
>
>
> The problem is that these old paint codes do not correspond or translate
> well into the new paint codes of today.
>
> 1st you need to see about getting the color match paint code you want for
> your car.
>
> If someone here has the current paint code for #58, pass it along.
>
>
>
> Any Automotive paint shop should be able to mix the paint in single stage
> or base coat/ clear coat.
>
> Single stage or BC/CC will most likely be determined by the painter=C3=A2=
=E2=82=AC=E2=84=A2s
> preference.
>
>
>
> Water base paints are sold to Professional Spray Paint Shops only as far
> as I know. I have asked about water base paints and they would not sell
> them to me.
>
> You really need a paint booth with correct equipment to spray, dry and
> cure water base paint.
>
>
>
> Ron Fraser
>
>
>
>
From: Tigers <tigers-bounces@autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Lance Beauchamp
> via Tigers
> Sent: Monday, August 30, 2021 8:40 AM
> To: Tiger Club. Submission <tigers@autox.team.net>
> Subject: [Tigers] New paints
>
>
>
> My 1964 Tiger thanks to a mishap and good insurance is getting a complete
> repaint, my question is what is now the preferred paint used today . My
> cars color is midnight blue, I believe 58 is the number. Should I do base
> coat clear coat.
>
> I hear their is water based paints now, I'm not to up on the new products=
.
> Any ideas are appreciated. Beau
>
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lack;"><div style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt;=
color:black;">Single stage is harder for most painters to lay down (easier =
to hide stuff with two stage) and also requires much more work if there are=
 any corrections needed down the road. Two stage also results in a harder s=
urface. But, no doubt, single stage looks right on our cars. I went with tw=
o stage, no regrets.</div><div style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-se=
rif;font-size:10pt;color:black;">Mike<br><br><br>-----Original Message-----=
<br>From: Ron Fraser &lt;rfraser@bluefrog.com&gt;<br>To: 'Richard Bruner' &=
lt;gammaman@mokancomm.net&gt;<br>Cc: 'Lance Beauchamp' &lt;blance598@gmail.=
com&gt;; tigers@autox.team.net<br>Sent: Mon, Aug 30, 2021 8:08 am<br>Subjec=
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5521281MsoNormal">Richard</p><p class=3D"yiv6795521281MsoNormal">&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp; You probably got those numbers from me.</p><p class=3D"yiv6795521281M=
soNormal"> &nbsp;</p><p class=3D"yiv6795521281MsoNormal">The problem is tha=
t at my paint shop those old numbers no longer translate to a paint mix.</p=
><p class=3D"yiv6795521281MsoNormal">Some paint shops may have those old pa=
int codes and mixes available but most do not.</p><p class=3D"yiv6795521281=
MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</p><p class=3D"yiv6795521281MsoNormal">Ron Fraser</p><p =
class=3D"yiv6795521281MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</p><div class=3D"yiv6795521281yqt8=
521505470" id=3D"yiv6795521281yqt23221"><p class=3D"yiv6795521281MsoNormal"=
><b>From:</b> Richard Bruner &lt;gammaman@mokancomm.net&gt; <br clear=3D"no=
ne"><b>Sent:</b> Monday, August 30, 2021 10:54 AM<br clear=3D"none"><b>To:<=
/b> Ron Fraser &lt;rfraser@bluefrog.com&gt;<br clear=3D"none"><b>Cc:</b> 'L=
ance Beauchamp' &lt;blance598@gmail.com&gt;; tigers@autox.team.net<br clear=
=3D"none"><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Tigers] New paints</p><p class=3D"yiv6795521=
281MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</p><p class=3D"yiv6795521281MsoNormal">This is what I=
 had saved from somewhere:<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">Ditzler cod=
e: 12633<br clear=3D"none">Dulux enamel: 97365<br clear=3D"none">Chrysler #=
: 75242838<br clear=3D"none">Burger code: 404.1710<br clear=3D"none">ICI: 2=
983<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">On Mon, August =
30, 2021 9:32 am, Ron Fraser via Tigers wrote:<br clear=3D"none">&gt; Paint=
 code 58 is Midnight Blue =C3=A2=E2=82=AC=E2=80=9C Ditzler # 12633<br clear=
=3D"none">&gt;<br clear=3D"none">&gt;<br clear=3D"none">&gt;<br clear=3D"no=
ne">&gt; The problem is that these old paint codes do not correspond or tra=
nslate<br clear=3D"none">&gt; well into the new paint codes of today.<br cl=
ear=3D"none">&gt;<br clear=3D"none">&gt; 1st you need to see about getting =
the color match paint code you want for<br clear=3D"none">&gt; your car.<br=
 clear=3D"none">&gt;<br clear=3D"none">&gt; If someone here has the current=
 paint code for #58, pass it along.<br clear=3D"none">&gt;<br clear=3D"none=
">&gt;<br clear=3D"none">&gt;<br clear=3D"none">&gt; Any Automotive paint s=
hop should be able to mix the paint in single stage<br clear=3D"none">&gt; =
or base coat/ clear coat.<br clear=3D"none">&gt;<br clear=3D"none">&gt; Sin=
gle stage or BC/CC will most likely be determined by the painter=C3=A2=E2=
=82=AC=E2=84=A2s<br clear=3D"none">&gt; preference.<br clear=3D"none">&gt;<=
br clear=3D"none">&gt;<br clear=3D"none">&gt;<br clear=3D"none">&gt; Water =
base paints are sold to Professional Spray Paint Shops only as far<br clear=
=3D"none">&gt; as I know. I have asked about water base paints and they wou=
ld not sell<br clear=3D"none">&gt; them to me.<br clear=3D"none">&gt;<br cl=
ear=3D"none">&gt; You really need a paint booth with correct equipment to s=
pray, dry and<br clear=3D"none">&gt; cure water base paint.<br clear=3D"non=
e">&gt;<br clear=3D"none">&gt;<br clear=3D"none">&gt;<br clear=3D"none">&gt=
; Ron Fraser<br clear=3D"none">&gt;<br clear=3D"none">&gt;<br clear=3D"none=
">&gt;<br clear=3D"none">&gt;<br clear=3D"none">From: Tigers &lt;<a rel=3D"=
nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:tigers-bounc=
es@autox.team.net" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.te=
am.net">tigers-bounces@autox.team.net</a>&gt; On Behalf Of Lance Beauchamp<=
br clear=3D"none">&gt; via Tigers<br clear=3D"none">&gt; Sent: Monday, Augu=
st 30, 2021 8:40 AM<br clear=3D"none">&gt; To: Tiger Club. Submission &lt;<=
a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:tig=
ers@autox.team.net" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net"=
>tigers@autox.team.net</a>&gt;<br clear=3D"none">&gt; Subject: [Tigers] New=
 paints<br clear=3D"none">&gt;<br clear=3D"none">&gt;<br clear=3D"none">&gt=
;<br clear=3D"none">&gt; My 1964 Tiger thanks to a mishap and good insuranc=
e is getting a complete<br clear=3D"none">&gt; repaint, my question is what=
 is now the preferred paint used today . My<br clear=3D"none">&gt; cars col=
or is midnight blue, I believe 58 is the number. Should I do base<br clear=
=3D"none">&gt; coat clear coat.<br clear=3D"none">&gt;<br clear=3D"none">&g=
t; I hear their is water based paints now, I'm not to up on the new product=
s.<br clear=3D"none">&gt; Any ideas are appreciated. Beau<br clear=3D"none"=
>&gt;<br clear=3D"none">&gt; ______________________________________________=
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