[Tigers] Dead As A Doornail

["Dr. T. Y. McDowell via Tigers" <tigers@autox.team.net>]

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My "dead as a doornail" comment.......
No electricity, no electric fuel pump, no lights, no radio, no horn - nothi=
ng.  I'll let the group know when I find out what it is.
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Thanks for the help!
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Tym McDowell

> On 06/07/2025 9:47 AM EDT Gary Winblad <winbladgary@gmail.com> wrote:
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> Yes Jay!
> Modern batteries can do that.  Did it in my 1994 Ford Probe way back then=
.  No warning signs.  Was parked 50 miles from home,
> went to start it an "dead as a doornail".  After a jump, was able to driv=
e it home on the alternator though.
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> I sure wonder what Tym means by "dead as a doornail".  I doubt it is what=
 all the other guys are suggesting...
> Gary W.
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> On Fri, Jun 6, 2025 at 8:51=E2=80=AFPM Jay Laifman <jay.laifman@gmail.com=
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> > While I agree with Will=E2=80=99s comments, I will point out on my daug=
hter=E2=80=99s 201? Jaguar, the car did stop cold while driving, from a bad=
 battery.  I argued against the dealer about it - because I thought I knew =
better.  But ultimately, I was proved wrong.  Modern cars electronic signal=
s are so narrow, the fluctuations from a battery dying can shut off some ca=
rs.  Though I understand some cars are designed to save critical driving sy=
stems.  But this was a Jaguar =E2=80=A6
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> > > On Jun 6, 2025, at 3:39=E2=80=AFPM, Will Seay via Tigers <tigers@auto=
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> > > Tym
> > > If the car just died it's hard to put the blame on the battery.  If y=
ou managed to start the car, the battery can't be in very bad shape.  If yo=
u were to completely disconnect the battery while the car is running, it wo=
uld continue to run on the generator.  If you're sure it's an electrical pr=
oblem I would start by checking out the ignition system - points, coil, con=
denser, ballast resistor.
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> > > Will - 382001570
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> > > On Fri, Jun 6, 2025 at 12:26=E2=80=AFPM Dr. T. Y. McDowell via Tigers=
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> > > > Good Afternoon Tigers,
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> > > > I had took my Tiger out yesterday for gas and an inspection sticker=
. Two miles from my house the car just died - dead as a doornail!  Brand ne=
w battery.  I had to have the car flat-bedded home (I waited 2.5 hours in 9=
0+ degree heat for the truck to arrive).=20
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> > > > It's definitely an electrical issue, but I have no idea where to lo=
ok/start.
> > > > Any input would be appreciated!
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> > > > Thanks in advance,
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> > > > Tym McDowell
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     Yes Jay!
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     Modern batteries can do that.&nbsp; Did it in my 1994 Ford Probe way b=
ack then.&nbsp; No warning signs.&nbsp; Was parked 50 miles from home,
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     went to start it an "dead as a doornail".&nbsp; After a jump, was able=
 to drive it home on the alternator though.
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     I sure wonder what Tym means by "dead as a doornail".&nbsp; I doubt it=
 is what all the other guys are suggesting...
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     Gary W.
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     On Fri, Jun 6, 2025 at 8:51=E2=80=AFPM Jay Laifman &lt;<a href=3D"mail=
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       While I agree with Will=E2=80=99s comments, I will point out on my d=
aughter=E2=80=99s 201? Jaguar, the car did stop cold while driving, from a =
bad battery.&nbsp; I argued against the dealer about it - because I thought=
 I knew better.&nbsp; But ultimately, I was proved wrong.&nbsp; Modern cars=
 electronic signals are so narrow, the fluctuations from a battery dying ca=
n shut off some cars.&nbsp; Though I understand some cars are designed to s=
ave critical driving systems.&nbsp; But this was a Jaguar =E2=80=A6
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        On Jun 6, 2025, at 3:39=E2=80=AFPM, Will Seay via Tigers &lt;<a hre=
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            Tym
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            If the car just died it's hard to put the blame on the battery.=
&nbsp; If you managed to start the car, the battery can't be in very bad sh=
ape.&nbsp; If you were to completely disconnect the battery while the car i=
s running, it would continue to run on the generator.&nbsp; If you're sure =
it's an electrical&nbsp;problem I would start by checking out the ignition =
system - points, coil, condenser, ballast&nbsp;resistor.
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            Good luck&nbsp;
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             Will - 382001570=20
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           On Fri, Jun 6, 2025 at 12:26=E2=80=AFPM Dr. T. Y. McDowell via T=
igers &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank" rel=3D=
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s-serif; color: #333333;">
             <span style=3D"font-family: helvetica; font-size: 12pt;">I had=
 took my Tiger out yesterday for gas and an inspection sticker. Two miles f=
rom my house the car just died - dead as a doornail!&nbsp; Brand new batter=
y.&nbsp; I had to have the car flat-bedded home (I waited 2.5 hours in 90+ =
degree heat for the truck to arrive).&nbsp;</span>
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             <span style=3D"font-family: helvetica; font-size: 12pt;">It's =
definitely an electrical issue, but I have no idea where to look/start.</sp=
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             <span style=3D"font-family: helvetica; font-size: 12pt;">Any i=
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