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Re: TRF & Re: paint

To: triumphs@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: TRF & Re: paint
From: S1500@aol.com
Date: Sun, 19 Nov 1995 11:33:11 -0500
Greetings Worldly Scions,

I'm afraid to tally up how much I've spent at TRF (and others) over the
years.
*Most* of the time I have been satisfied with TRF.  We tend to write about
our bad experiences as Mr. Runyan says.  Who wants to read on the list
that I got the parts I ordered?  <-- Rhetorical question don't answer.

Last week I ordered a couple of Spit 1500 tachometers from TRF.
These were 'Dave's attic specials', NOS parts, only $20 each (Wotta deal).
I asked the level 1 sales person if these would work on my ('78) car,
and the answer was "yes".  When the parts arrived, I discovered
they were the mechanical tach for earlier cars and therefore incompatible.
I called TRF, and to their credit they agreed to take them back.
'Daves attic specials' are parts marked down, sold "as is" ,
non-returnable, non-back-orderable etc.  They would have been well
within their rights to refuse.  My hat's off to them, Bravo !
I should have looked up the part # in the first place.

Paint:

In a message dated 95-11-18 08:43:11 EST, CAMMAVI@MAIL.AUBURN.EDU (VINCE
CAMMARATA) writes:

>Any clues as to where '65
>Spit paint #25 could be located?

Code: 25 is Conifer Green according to John Thomason's
"Triumph Spitfire and GT6 A Guide to Originality"
This book has the "known" paint codes listed along side some very
accurate (printed) colour "samples".

SCHWANGAU (Brian) replies on Sat:

>I don't know what color that is, but I was able to match Pageant Blue in my
>79 VERY accruately from a local professional autobody supply shop.  

I have what I believe to be a Pageant Blue Spitfire.  It has the 'unlisted'
paint code JMA on the commission plate so I'm not certain.  Thomason's
book says JAE is the code for this colour, and the 'sample' looks right.
The local NAPA store looked in their book, and have a JAM code listed
and they call that Pageant Blue.  Go figger......
Brian, what is your paint code?

On Sat, 18 Nov 1995 18:44:10 -0700
Mark J Bradakis <mjb>  adds:

>Getting the original mix of paint won't do you much good if you're doing
panel
>or spot repairs, unless you subject the fresh paint to the exact same degree
of
>weathering and aging that the surrounding area has had.  If you are doing
these
>sorts of repairs, you may be able to get a automotive paint supplier in your
>area to match, fairly closely, the color of the car as it exists now.

YES,  I'm sure many of us have seen (and owned) vehicles that have been
'repaired' and the paint matches perfectly at first, but a few years (in the
sun)
later no longer matches.  There's just *no* way to guarantee a good colour
match 'down the road'.  Try telling that to an insurance adjuster when he
refuses to paint the whole car :-(

This brings to mind a related effect.  "Metamerism",  hope I spelled that
right.  It's not in my dictionary here at home.  This is the effect where
colour
appears to match in one kind of light ( eg. daylight), but does not match
when subjected to another type of light (eg. sodium street lamp).  The 
cause of it is quite complicated so I won't bore you all with the details.
It's quite easy to see, and happens often with repaired car panels.
We have colour sample strips at work that demonstrate the effect very well.
A related effect is being used *deliberately* these days by some modern
auto manufacturers.  The colour of the vehicle "changes" depending
on the viewing angle and the light source.

Bob (who has not the patience for paint or bodywork but loves to wrench)
75(136), 78(HAE), 78(JMA) Spitfires  (no metamerism)


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