Brad & List:
I'm not a lawyer, so I can't advise on whether this is mail fraud or not,
I've had real good success by using the following method to protect BOTH the
buyer and the seller. (Usually only for something over 50 bucks, or
whatever your 'shaft limit' is)
Have the shipping person send the item COD via a commercial carrier. When
the item arrives, you pay COD for it, and a few days later the person gets
the money. At worst, you (the buyer) don't pay a cent if the thing doesn't
arrive. The seller is only out the cost of shipping if you don't pay for
I know, it could have some holes but I've made several large (500 dollar
plus) purchases in this way and both parties have been happy. It's a shame
we have to do this, but hey, you just never know. Like I said, this is
usually not necessary, especially with someone off this list. Most everyone
is a great person and wouldn't dream of shafting someone. But, you never
Just my 2 cents.
70 GT6+ KC79034L
Braselton (Road Atlanta), GA
[mailto:email@example.com]On Behalf Of Brad Kahler
Sent: Monday, February 01, 1999 8:44 PM
Subject: mail fraud?
I would like to find out what constitutes mail fraud. I answered an add on
the VTR site for a rear fender. After several emails and then phone
conversations with the gentleman we agreed on a price and shipping
charges. The owner wanted a money order and I complied. The price was
$90 so we aren't talking a lot of money here. I just don't like the idea of
being screwed. I sent the money back in August and quite a while went by
and no fender. I finally called again around christmas time and talked to
him I think for the second time and I got the song and dance about him
having followed on hard times ect ect. Same old song and dance.
Supposedly he is still going to ship the fender (yea right).
So does this constitute mail fraud or is it just stupidity on my part? What
course of action should I take in this. I have his address and phone
Something I had thought of was trying to find a fellow lister to stop by
persons place and see if they could if nothing else pick up the fender from
him. If this seems like a good idea are there any listers in the LA and the
area code prefix is 714 that would want to tackle this problem?
I'm open to any suggestions?
Brad (Lincoln Nebraska 402-464-1502)
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