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RE: upholstery shops

To: "'John Runge'" <greentr3@ptd.net>
Subject: RE: upholstery shops
From: "Jim Altman" <jaltman@altlaw.com>
Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2000 10:08:43 -0400charset="iso-8859-1"
Cc: "'triumphs@autox. team. net' \(E-mail\)" <triumphs@autox.team.net>
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Its not that at all.  Its Ken who insists on jumping down Fred's throat
everytime he says something.  I for one, am pretty damn tired of it.



Jim Altman jaltman@altlaw.com Illigitimi non Carborundum
<http://www.altlaw.com/metro/jaltman.html> 69-TR6 80-TR8 W4UCK





-----Original Message-----
From: owner-triumphs@autox.team.net
[mailto:owner-triumphs@autox.team.net]On Behalf Of John Runge
Sent: Sunday, April 16, 2000 9:11 AM
To: Beth and Ken
Subject: RE: upholstery shops



Fellow Listers,

Something is rotten in Denmark.....

Can't we just be friends?

Why do we have to jump at each other's throat each time we open our mouth
and say something 'notpoliticallycorrect'?

Some people do speak with an accent or look different (including me).

If we always have to concentrate on being politically correct all the time,
we won't have time to help each other fixing our TRs.

If someone makes a comment that 'hits home' with me, I just consider the
source and forget about it.

Personally I don't blame Fred for being ticked-off, but, I guess he just
forgot to powder-coat his remark :-)

Thanks for listening.

John

Ps.  I'm Danish (from Denmark) and I speak with an Irish accent (Go figure)


-----Original Message-----
From: owner-triumphs@autox.team.net [mailto:owner-triumphs@autox.team.net]On
Behalf Of Beth and Ken
Sent: Thursday, January 03, 1980 3:12 AM
To: Mark Gendron; Fred Thomas; triumphs@autox.team.net
Cc: spitfires@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: upholstery shops


Mark;

We tend not to be as sensitive to slurs made against some groups as to those
made against others. Since we're more attuned to the racism directed at
Af.rican Americans, consider Fred's remarks as if they were made in the
dialect of what a racist would use for Black dialect. Maybe now you see it?
Not just my feeling...fellow Triumph lover and friend, Michael Le (Vietnam),
was rather ticked when he read the original post. Fred's remark was
insensitive at best.

ken shapiro


----- Original Message -----
From: Mark Gendron <mgendron@speakeasy.org>
To: Beth and Ken <bethken@erols.com>; Fred Thomas <vafred@erols.com>;
<triumphs@autox.team.net>
Cc: <spitfires@autox.team.net>
Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2000 8:23 PM
Subject: RE: upholstery shops


>
> I don't think Fred's comment was racist. I think he was
> frustrated about having an expensive piece of upholstery
> buggered up by someone who hasn't mastered the basics of
> his trade. I was just pointing out that such unfortunate
> experiences can happen no matter who you are dealing
> with.
>
> Certainly, such clowns are disproportionately
> represented by guys who talk like Bruce Springsteen,
> but I'm sure that's just a statistical anomaly.  ;-)
>
> -mg
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Beth and Ken [mailto:bethken@erols.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 1980 9:36 PM
> To: Mark Gendron; Fred Thomas; triumphs@autox.team.net
> Cc: spitfires@autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: upholstery shops
>
>
> Except then it would only be regionist as opposed to racist.
>
> ken
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Mark Gendron <mgendron@speakeasy.org>
> To: Fred Thomas <vafred@erols.com>; <triumphs@autox.team.net>
> Cc: <spitfires@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2000 3:12 PM
> Subject: RE: upholstery shops
>
>
> >
> > > From: Fred Thomas
> > > Subject: upholstery shops
> > >
> > > Now he tells me "O-So, No Can Do That Way", no
> > > understand your english so good, sollie.
> >
> > Well, to be fair, I have heard the same thing many
> > times with a New Jersey accent.
> >
> >
>
>


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