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$5,940.12 (long)

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Subject: $5,940.12 (long)
From: "Ken Gano" <triumphs@mcleodusa.net>
Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 22:56:59 -0500
For about the last year I have been collecting all of the Triumph sales on
e-bay.  A common question here seems to be "what is it worth?"  After
collecting 1111 total cars offered, 478 sold, I thought it might be time to
share some "conclusions."

First, a couple of disclaimers.  While I believe this list is complete, (if
anyone would like to see the raw numbers, e-mail me and I will attach the
file) there are about 30 cars on presently and another 20 or so which, for
whatever reasons (early withdrawal, bad links, etc.) that are not included
in these figures.  Also, I am NOT a statistician, so I will happily defer to
someone who is :)  Note to that I am counting each listing as a separate
sale, many, many cars have been listed multiple times.

While E-bay is hardly a representative market, here goes, "for what it's
worth."

A total of 1111 cars have been offered for sale, about 478 of these "sold"
in the sense of either having met reserve or having bids when there was no
reserve.  I have no way of knowing how many sales actually were consummated.
These works out to a 43.0% sale rate.  The average price of all of the
Triumphs that sold was $5,940.12.

The model breakdown is as follows:

TR2

A total of 8 cars were offered, 3 actually sold for an average $7,056.66 and
a median of $5,044.99 on the cars actually sold.  The range on the sold cars
was from $1,725.00 to $14,400.00.  The unsold cars ranged from $100.00 to
$15,200.00.  Sale rate 37.5%

TR3

A total of 101 cars were offered, of which 48 actually sold for a sale rate
of 47.5%  (three cars fell into my "lost" category.)  The average price of
the cars sold was $7,758.91 and the median was $7,000.00.  The range was
$520.00 to $21,000.00.  (This also represented the highest price paid for
any Triumph).  The unsold cars ranged from $150.00 to $25,000.00

TR4

A total of 89 cars were offered, of which 46 sold, representing a 51.7% sale
rate.  The average sale price was $4,288.23 and the median was $3,150.50.
They ranged from $250.00 to $13,200.00.  The unsold cars ranged from $315.00
to $15,000.00

TR250 (No true TR5's have been offered)


Total of 9 cars offered, 7 of which have sold for a sale rate of 77.8%
(that's the highest sale rate).  Average sale price was $2,807.41, ranging
from $636.88 to $6,610.00.  Medium was $1,525.00.  The unsold TR250's ranged
from $750.00 to $9,000.00.

TR6

318 cars offered, 128 sold for a sale rate of 40.3%.  Average price of cars
sold was $5,106.90.  Medium price was $4,900.00.  The cars sold ranged from
$250.00 to $12,650.00.  The unsold ranged from $25.00 to $25,000.00.

TR7

134 cars offered, 65 sold for a sale rate of 48.5%.  Average price sold was
$1,547.20.  Medium was $1,262.50.  They ranged from $177.50 to $6,000.00.
Unsold ranged from $50.00 to $7,500.00

TR8

38 cars offered, 9 cars sold for a sale to offer rate of 23.7% (the lowest
sale rate)  Of the 9 cars sold, the average price was $5,433.44, the medium
was $4,500.00.  The sold ranged from $1,025.00 to $9,400.00.  Unsold ranged
from $1,251.00 to $13,500.00.  4 cars fit into the "lost" category.


Spitfire

A total of 250 cars have been offered and 105 have sold, for a sale rate of
42.0%.  The average sale price has been $2,262.50 and the medium was
$1,950.00.  Among the sold cars the range was $100.00 to $9,300.00.  Unsold
car ranged from $100.00 to $9,500.00.

GT6

A total of 53 cars have been offered, of which 28 sold, for a sale rate of
52.8%.  The average of the sold cars was $1,876.50 and the medium was
$1,087.50.  The range of sold was from $150.00 to $6,500.00.  The unsold
cars ranged from $400.00 to $10,500.00


Herald

(This personally breaks my heart :))  A total of 18 cars have been offered,
of which 5 have sold for a sale rate of 27.8%.  The average price has been
$935.03 and the medium was $800.00.  The range on sold cars was $225.00 to
$2,025.00.  The unsold included the notorious "$85,000" restoration and
ranged from $761.00 to $18,200.00.

Stag

29 stags have been offered, of which 13 sold (sale rate 44.8%).  The average
sale price was $4,521.69 and the medium was $3,724.50.  The sold cars ranged
from $1,500.00 (two) to $9,600.00.  The unsold cars closed at a range
between $810.00 and $18,000.00.

Other

Here is where comparisons get a little silly.  This category includes 2 1800
roadsters (same car, as I recall) not sold at $16,800 and $13,700.00, 1 1939
Dolomite (gawd, I wanted that car) with no bids opening at $20,000.00, 1
1951 Renown with no bids at $8,900.00, two model Tens (again, it was the
same car offered twice) with no bids at either $4,000.00 and $5,000.00, one
1966 1200 sold at $280.00, one 1500 sold at $500.00 and two 1973 Dolomites,
one selling for $911.00 and another for $3,500.00.  There was also the
Bermuda Special that was initially offered at $30,000, made no bids and was
withdrawn before the end of the auction.

Note that no effort has been had to account for "specials" (v-8 conversions,
various breakdowns of model type, although that would be possible) or other
considerations.  Basically I have keeping just 7 bits of information, year,
model, price, location, whether it sold, reserve, no reserve or reserve not
met and the e-bay URL.

General conclusions.  Well, the older the car, the more it seems to be
worth, with the exception of the TR8's and Stags, which are holding there
own.  TR6's and Spitfires are the most common, and if you insist on selling
on E-bay, it's a little less than 50-50 that the car will sell.

Stay tuned for a look at sales by locations :)

Ken Gano

1958 Model Ten
1959 TR3
1961 Herald

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