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Re: >>NASS Holy S___ Batman! - LONG - so for the future - options.....

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Subject: Re: >>NASS Holy S___ Batman! - LONG - so for the future - options......
From: "ptegler@cablespeed" <ptegler@cablespeed.com>
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 14:18:42 -0500
References: <005c01c2ea3f$24860f80$0201a8c0@teglerizer.com> <00b301c2ea62$972e8c60$21637cca@default>
four parts....

part one-------------
I was trying to dig back through the nass archives
and find the conversation we went through about a month/two
ago concerning the rear cyls (self adjusting) and all the
variation concerning cyl sizes vs. pressures. But I think now
it was on one of the other Triumph yahoo lists.

part two-------------
After calling/contacting about 15 different LBC parts
distributors and local shops here in the states, I had one
of the local shops call me back. They were able to track
down 'one' out on the west coast. All dusty on the back shelf.
Pricey, but even with special shipping and of course the local
shop's markup, it's still cheaper than what Moss lists, which
they do not have in stock either.

And for reference.... since Girling has been bought out (more
than five times in the last eight years), I've (we've... the searchers)
have  come to find 4 'specific' stories as to why these  rebuild
kits are so hard to find. The 'winning' story seems to be one of
the typical....   as each buy out took place and different employees
left/were replaced...  more and more of their (Girling's) hardware
disappeared.

Not only this cyl, but a few other LBC's are having this same problem
AS too, are a few older 'Jap' cars that copied Girlings designs
and apparently using the same rebuild kits, were relying on the
availability of the rebuild kits that are no longer manufactured.

part three-------------
Option #1***
      For the future.... should I consider just fitting an earlier 0.7"
tandem
      cylinder ( no servo here, and keeping the self adjusting rear
      cyls with the larger drums and pads)
Option #2***
       fit the 0.7" master, add the servo, keeping the rear self adj, and
       large drums and pads
option #3***
      Fit the 0.7" master, swap out the rear backplates, fit the smaller
      cyls, drums and pads
option #4***

http://www.performancebodies.com/2002%20catalog/pedals/brakes.html#wilbrake
     Heck of a lot cheaper!
     or fit a complete  wilwood kit
     http://www.btinternet.com/~bgcmotorsport/brakehardware.html

part four-------------
Contact a friend of mine and when this kit arrives, use it as a model and
let
have him start manufacturing them!

Paul Tegler
ptegler@cablespeed.com
www.teglerizer.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Kipping" <johnkipping@inet.net.nz>
To: <nass@yahoogroups.com>; <triumphs@autox.team.net>; "CARS
Spitfires@Autox. Team. Net (E-mail)" <spitfires@autox.team.net>;
<SPIT6CGT6@yahoogroups.com>; <spitfire-enthusiast@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 2:44 PM
Subject: Re: >>NASS Holy S___ Batman! what a rip!


> The late GT6 III is (relatively speaking) quite common in the UK, (I think
it was all to do with exchange rates and it was expensive in the US).
However all UK ones use a single line master cylinder and possibly the
tandem brake master is only fitted to these very rare US models, which makes
the repair kit unique, and I can't recall selling a single one in 20 years.
I would be tempted to fit the earlier tandem master (with kit that costs
about $15 ex UK), even with a working servo the brake pedal won't feel much
different, and without one it would be better in any case.
> John Kipping
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: ptegler@cablespeed
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>   Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2003 4:33 AM
>   Subject: >>NASS Holy S___ Batman! what a rip!
>
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>   Well I've been looking into the apparently altra-rare
>   late model GT6 MKIII brake master cyl. (.75" bore)   Earlier
>   rebuild kits (0.7" bore) run in the $30 range...and this one
>   in the 50-60 range. (U.S. price range) But Moss wants over $100 plus!
>   what a rip!  With shipping from the U.K. itwould still be under $50
>   so what's Moss gouging for!
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>   Paul Tegler
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>   www.teglerizer.com
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