| To: | 'Randall' <tr3driver@ca.rr.com>, Dave Connitt <dconnitt@fuse.net> |
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| Subject: | Re: [TR] TR6 brake master cylinder |
| From: | Cliff Hansen <cliff_hansen@outlook.com> |
| Date: | Thu, 31 Mar 2016 02:46:58 +0000 |
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The rubber ones. I haven't driven enough to decide if they are affecting br=
ake performance. Wish I'd had heard about that before I bought the hoses.
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On Wed=2C Mar 30=2C 2016 at 5:28 PM -0700=2C "Dave Connitt" <dconnitt@fuse.=
net> wrote:
Hi Cliff!
Did you go with the fancy braided hoses or stay with the rubber hoses? I am=
thinking about switching over to the braded ones while I am at it but don=
=E2=80=99t know if the gain is worth the expense.
Dave Connitt
From: Cliff Hansen [mailto:cliff_hansen@outlook.com]
Sent: Tuesday=2C March 29=2C 2016 11:06 PM
To: 'Randall' <tr3driver@ca.rr.com>=3B Dave Connitt <dconnitt@fuse.net>
Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [TR] TR6 brake master cylinder
I had to change all the hoses - they all leaked after I switched to DOT5. I=
'd already rebuilt the calipers and cylinders and had new brake lines I su=
ppose I shouldn't had reused the hoses.
Cliff
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On Tue=2C Mar 29=2C 2016 at 7:29 PM -0700=2C "Dave Connitt" <dconnitt@fuse.=
Randall=2C
Interesting. I have been running DOT3 in my TR4A since I got the car
drivable (about 2 years now) and only used DOT3 because there was a big
sticker on the side of the master cylinder telling me "USE ONLY DOT 3 BRAKE
FLUID OR WARRENTY IS VOID". I was wondering how big a PIA it would be to
flush out the DOT3 fluid and replace it with DOT5. I have read many posts o=
n
this list where people have used DOT 5 with no issues so I am considering
changing over as I should probably replace the current fluid after 2 years
anyway.
Dave Connitt
-----Original Message-----
From: Triumphs [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Randal=
l
Sent: Monday=2C March 28=2C 2016 4:09 PM
Subject: Re: [TR] TR6 brake master cylinder
> That was going to be my next question. About how carefully one had to
> drain the dot 4 when installing dot 5. It sounds like I can put in my
> fresh MC=2C fill it with silicone=2C then bleed each brake till I see
> purple fluid.
Another contested question. My experience is as Paul said=2C just "bleedin=
g
through" will not remove all of the old brake fluid from the system.
However=2C I saw no ill effects from the small pockets of old fluid left ov=
er.
The DOT 5 will not mix with the old fluid=2C and is slightly less dense=2C =
so
you get little pockets of fluid in corners that don't get used (like the
base of the rear slave cylinders). The DOT 5 also surrounds it=2C so it ca=
n't
promote corrosion (and I assume not absorb water or salt).
Main disadvantage seems to be that the remaining DOT 3/4 will suck all the
purple dye out of the DOT 5.
Randall
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<div>The rubber ones. I haven't driven enough to decide if they are affecti=
ng brake performance. Wish I'd had heard about that before I bought the hos=
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ot=3BDave Connitt"=3B <span dir=3D"ltr">
<=3B<a href=3D"mailto:dconnitt@fuse.net"; target=3D"_blank">dconnitt@fuse.=
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<p class=3D"x_MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt=3B font-family:&qu=
ot=3BCalibri"=3B=2Csans-serif">Did you go with the fancy braided hoses =
or stay with the rubber hoses? I am thinking about switching over to the br=
aded ones while I am at it but don=E2=80=99t know if the gain
is worth the expense.</span></p>
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ot=3BCalibri"=3B=2Csans-serif">Dave Connitt</span></p>
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<b>To:</b> 'Randall' <=3Btr3driver@ca.rr.com>=3B=3B Dave Connitt <=3B=
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<p class=3D"x_MsoNormal">I had to change all the hoses - they all leaked af=
ter I switched to DOT5. I'd already rebuilt the calipers and cylinders and =
had new brake lines  =3BI suppose I shouldn't had reused the hoses.</p>
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<p class=3D"x_MsoNormal">Randall=2C<br>
Interesting. I have been running DOT3 in my TR4A since I got the car<br>
drivable (about 2 years now) and only used DOT3 because there was a big<br>
sticker on the side of the master cylinder telling me "=3BUSE ONLY DOT =
3 BRAKE<br>
FLUID OR WARRENTY IS VOID"=3B. I was wondering how big a PIA it would b=
e to<br>
flush out the DOT3 fluid and replace it with DOT5. I have read many posts o=
n<br>
this list where people have used DOT 5 with no issues so I am considering<b=
r>
changing over as I should probably replace the current fluid after 2 years<=
br>
anyway.<br>
Dave Connitt<br>
<br>
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From: Triumphs [<a href=3D"mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net";>mailto:t=
riumphs-bounces@autox.team.net</a>] On Behalf Of Randall<br>
Sent: Monday=2C March 28=2C 2016 4:09 PM<br>
Cc: <a href=3D"mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net";>triumphs@autox.team.net</a><=
br>
Subject: Re: [TR] TR6 brake master cylinder<br>
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>=3B That was going to be my next question. About how carefully one had t=
o <br>
>=3B drain the dot 4 when installing dot 5. It sounds like I can put in m=
y <br>
>=3B fresh MC=2C fill it with silicone=2C then bleed each brake till I se=
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>=3B purple fluid.<br>
<br>
Another contested question. =3B My experience is as Paul said=2C just &=
quot=3Bbleeding<br>
through"=3B will not remove all of the old brake fluid from the system.=
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However=2C I saw no ill effects from the small pockets of old fluid left ov=
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The DOT 5 will not mix with the old fluid=2C and is slightly less dense=2C =
so<br>
you get little pockets of fluid in corners that don't get used (like the<br=
>
base of the rear slave cylinders). =3B The DOT 5 also surrounds it=2C s=
o it can't<br>
promote corrosion (and I assume not absorb water or salt).<br>
<br>
Main disadvantage seems to be that the remaining DOT 3/4 will suck all the<=
br>
purple dye out of the DOT 5.<br>
<br>
Randall<br>
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