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To: dave n <dave@ranteer.com>, "triumphs@autox.team.net" <triumphs@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [TR] winter storage
From: "Reihing, Randall S." <Randall.Reihing@utoledo.edu>
Date: Tue, 3 May 2016 13:57:59 +0000
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I agree! I would keep those cans in the family forever. Genuine WW II histo=
rical artifacts.

Historical records list the Germans as the original inventor of the "Jerry"=
, 4 liter or 5.3 US Gallon can before WW II. During WW II the British, Amer=
icans and Russians all realized the can was superior to what they were usin=
g and after a few variations eventually copied the design, still in use tod=
ay. The British were the fastest to realize the can's excellent design with=
 the American's, as usual, having to try and "improve" a superior design, f=
ailing at every attempt, and finally adopting the design in it's entirety. =
The three handles are so one person, or two people with one on each side, c=
an carry the can.

Dave, the two I have are very cool but not nearly as historical as what you=
 have. Keep them forever, or maybe consider donating them to a museum. What=
 a cool display they would make in your shop. So much history there. Not a =
single, ground based, gasoline powered vehicle on either side moved very fa=
r without those cans.

Oddly, I was recently reading about President Roosevelt's WW II history and=
 came across a passage where he actually referenced those "Jerry" cans and =
said without them the Allies would not have been as successful in France as=
 we were.

Some amazing history represented in those two cans.

Randall Reihing
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From: Triumphs [triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] on behalf of dave n [dave@=
ranteer.com]
Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2016 8:30 AM
To: triumphs@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [TR] winter storage

wonderful history.  don=92t ever let them go!

Sent: Tuesday, May 3, 2016 6:45 AM
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Subject: Re: [TR] winter storage

That's 'cause they were paced in cosmoline.  ;-)

Cheers and thanks for the remembrances.


Dave Massey



-----Original Message-----
From: John Macartney <john.macartney@ukpips.org.uk>
To: 'Reihing, Randall S.' <Randall.Reihing@utoledo.edu>; 'dave n' <dave@ran=
teer.com>; triumphs <triumphs@autox.team.net>
Sent: Tue, May 3, 2016 6:23 am
Subject: Re: [TR] winter storage

Randall Reihing wrote:
I have two WW II US Army five gallon cans that were originally on a WW II U=
S Army tank and at 75 years old they are still good, do not leak, are not r=
usty inside or outside, and hold fuel for as long as I need them to, which =
is a lot less than 20-30 years.

Snap! They knew how to make them in WW2. I=92ve still got a 25 litre German=
 jerrican in German field grey stamped, =93Wehrmacht. Afrika Korps 1942 =96=
 fur Kubelwagen=94. Presumably it was designed to clip on to the open-toppe=
d VW used by the likes of Rommel and friends?

How this can made it back to England is anyone=92s guess, especially as it =
has two approx. 5 inch diameter patches painted olive green welded to eithe=
r face equally stamped on the patches =93British Fifth Army LRDG=94 which L=
RDG means Long Range Desert Group. These were the guys who penetrated far b=
ehind enemy lines and made a nuisance of themselves by blowing up supply li=
nes and indulging in other unco-operative initiatives. Dad used the can for=
 years afterwards for kerosene to keep the kero heater in our greenhouse at=
 home going in the winter. It=92s still good for use and while it takes up =
a lot of space in my tiny workshop, I can=92t bring myself to be rid of it:=
) It=92s strange how the Germans and the Allies used such a familiar design=
. Who copied who or was it two like minds on different sides coming up with=
 the same idea and concept?

Jonmac

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10pt;">I agree! I would keep those cans in the family forever. Genuine WW I=
I historical artifacts.&nbsp;
<div><br>
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<div>Historical records list the Germans as the original inventor of the &q=
uot;Jerry&quot;, 4 liter or 5.3 US Gallon can before WW II. During WW II th=
e British, Americans and Russians all realized the can was superior to what=
 they were using and after a few variations
 eventually copied the design, still in use today. The British were the fas=
test to realize the can's excellent design with the American's, as usual, h=
aving to try and &quot;improve&quot; a superior design, failing at every at=
tempt, and finally adopting the design in
 it's entirety. The three handles are so one person, or two people with one=
 on each side, can carry the can. &nbsp;</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Dave, the two I have are very cool but not nearly as historical as wha=
t you have. Keep them forever,<span style=3D"font-size: 10pt;">&nbsp;or may=
be consider donating them to a museum. What a cool display they would make =
in your shop. So much history there. Not
 a single, ground based, gasoline powered vehicle on either side moved very=
 far without those cans.&nbsp;</span></div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Oddly, I was recently reading about President Roosevelt's WW II histor=
y and came across a passage where he actually referenced those &quot;Jerry&=
quot; cans and said without them the Allies would not have been as successf=
ul in France as we were.&nbsp;</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Some amazing history represented in those two cans.&nbsp;</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Randall Reihing<br>
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ze=3D"2" color=3D"#000000"><b>From:</b> Triumphs [triumphs-bounces@autox.te=
am.net] on behalf of dave n [dave@ranteer.com]<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, May 03, 2016 8:30 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> triumphs@autox.team.net<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [TR] winter storage<br>
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<div>wonderful history.&nbsp; don=92t ever let them go!</div>
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<div style=3D""><b>From:</b> <a title=3D"dave1massey@cs.com" href=3D"mailto=
:dave1massey@cs.com" target=3D"_blank">
Dave</a> </div>
<div><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, May 3, 2016 6:45 AM</div>
<div><b>To:</b> <a title=3D"john.macartney@ukpips.org.uk" href=3D"mailto:jo=
hn.macartney@ukpips.org.uk" target=3D"_blank">
john.macartney@ukpips.org.uk</a> ; <a title=3D"Randall.Reihing@utoledo.edu"=
 href=3D"mailto:Randall.Reihing@utoledo.edu"; target=3D"_blank">
Randall.Reihing@utoledo.edu</a> ; <a title=3D"dave@ranteer.com" href=3D"mai=
lto:dave@ranteer.com" target=3D"_blank">
dave@ranteer.com</a> ; <a title=3D"triumphs@autox.team.net" href=3D"mailto:=
triumphs@autox.team.net" target=3D"_blank">
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t size=3D"4">That's 'cause they were paced in cosmoline.&nbsp; ;-)</font><b=
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<font size=3D"4">Cheers and thanks for the remembrances.</font><br>
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From: John Macartney &lt;john.macartney@ukpips.org.uk&gt;<br>
To: 'Reihing, Randall S.' &lt;Randall.Reihing@utoledo.edu&gt;; 'dave n' &lt=
;dave@ranteer.com&gt;; triumphs &lt;triumphs@autox.team.net&gt;<br>
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Subject: Re: [TR] winter storage<br>
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<div class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt; font-family:&quot;C=
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<div class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt; font-family:&quot;T=
ahoma&quot;,sans-serif; color:black">I have two WW II US Army five gallon c=
ans that were originally on a WW II US Army tank and at 75 years old they a=
re still good, do not leak, are not rusty inside
 or outside, and hold fuel for as long as I need them to, which is a lot le=
ss than 20-30 years.&nbsp;
</span></div>
<div class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt; font-family:&quot;C=
alibri&quot;,sans-serif"></span>&nbsp;</div>
<div class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt; font-family:&quot;C=
alibri&quot;,sans-serif">Snap! They knew how to make them in WW2. I=92ve st=
ill got a 25 litre German jerrican in German field grey stamped, =93Wehrmac=
ht. Afrika Korps 1942 =96 fur Kubelwagen=94. Presumably
 it was designed to clip on to the open-topped VW used by the likes of Romm=
el and friends?</span></div>
<div class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt; font-family:&quot;C=
alibri&quot;,sans-serif"></span>&nbsp;</div>
<div class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt; font-family:&quot;C=
alibri&quot;,sans-serif">How this can made it back to England is anyone=92s=
 guess, especially as it has two approx. 5 inch diameter patches painted ol=
ive green welded to either face equally stamped
 on the patches =93British Fifth Army LRDG=94 which LRDG means Long Range D=
esert Group. These were the guys who penetrated far behind enemy lines and =
made a nuisance of themselves by blowing up supply lines and indulging in o=
ther unco-operative initiatives. Dad
 used the can for years afterwards for kerosene to keep the kero heater in =
our greenhouse at home going in the winter. It=92s still good for use and w=
hile it takes up a lot of space in my tiny workshop, I can=92t bring myself=
 to be rid of it</span><span style=3D"font-size:11pt; font-family:wingdings=
">J</span><span style=3D"font-size:11pt; font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sa=
ns-serif">
 It=92s strange how the Germans and the Allies used such a familiar design.=
 Who copied who or was it two like minds on different sides coming up with =
the same idea and concept?</span></div>
<div class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt; font-family:&quot;C=
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<div class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt; font-family:&quot;C=
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