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Re: [TR] Was Smiths Heater Core Rebuilding/Now Maradyne Heaters

To: "'David Friedlander'" <forzion7@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [TR] Was Smiths Heater Core Rebuilding/Now Maradyne Heaters
From: "Bill Brewer" <billbrewer59@yahoo.com>
Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2016 21:31:52 -0700
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     The Maradyne fit well between the two dash supports without =
problems.

     I cut a notch with a hack saw about an inch long on both sides of =
the corner so the choke cable goes through the corner of the box. If you =
need, I can post a photo. I sort of don=E2=80=99t want to do it because =
I wish that I had made the notch bigger but am too lazy to pull the =
heater back out and do it again and don=E2=80=99t want to show =
everyone=E2=80=A6 The choke does work well enough as it is.

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     -Bill

=20

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From: David Friedlander [mailto:forzion7@gmail.com]=20
Sent: Monday, September 26, 2016 8:51 AM
To: Bill Brewer
Subject: Re: Was Smiths Heater Core Rebuilding/Now Maradyne Heaters

=20

Bill;

     "...I also cut out a notch to better clear the TR3 choke cable...."

Where is it you cut that notch? Did your battery box still have the=20
dash and cable support brackets on it or were those removed/not=20
present to allow for the new heater to sit flush against the heater=20
box?

Dave

=20

On Mon, Sep 26, 2016 at 12:09 AM, Bill Brewer <billbrewer59@yahoo.com> =
wrote:

      Maradynes are aftermarket heaters designed for farm tractors or =
maybe a pickup truck. They almost slide straight in to where the =
original TR3 heater was.

     To make the Maradyne fit the TR3 better you need to disassemble it =
and reverse the heater core so the intake/exhaust is on the front of the =
heater and not the back. This way you can mount it flush against the =
battery box. I also cut out a notch to better clear the TR3 choke cable. =
Make the notch a lot bigger than you think it should be to avoid the =
choke cable having to bend. I used copper plumbing fittings from Lowes =
to reduce the fittings down to 3/8=E2=80=9D rigid copper pipe which has =
a 0.5=E2=80=9D OD to fit the TR3 heater hoses.

     I have seen Maradynes mounted to the trans tunnel, but I =
don=E2=80=99t like the look.

     I mounted my Maradyne to the back of the battery box using #10 SS =
sheet metal screws. I held it in place using double-sided tape while I =
was drilling the holes. I lined the bottom of the Maradyne even with the =
bottom of the battery box. You can barely see it under the dash. You can =
paint or upholster the heater to match your interior.

     The Maradyne seems to put out about 2 or 3 times as much heat as =
the original TR3 heater. Even with smooth defroster hoses I barely can =
get an ants fart to come out the defroster vents.

=20

            =
https://www.amazon.com/Maradyne-H-803012-Phoenix-Floor-Heater/dp/B00DZEZ0=
KS/ref=3Dpd_lpo_263_tr_t_3?ie=3DUTF8 =
<https://www.amazon.com/Maradyne-H-803012-Phoenix-Floor-Heater/dp/B00DZEZ=
0KS/ref=3Dpd_lpo_263_tr_t_3?ie=3DUTF8&psc=3D1&refRID=3DJT51F1QH1ANE406VY6=
DQ> &psc=3D1&refRID=3DJT51F1QH1ANE406VY6DQ

=20

     They have two sizes of heaters. I would try to put in the bigger =
one (25,000 BTU) if possible.

     Good luck!

=20

     -Bill Brewer

=20

From: David Friedlander [mailto:forzion7@gmail.com]=20
Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2016 6:36 PM
To: Bill Brewer
Subject: Re: [TR] Smiths Heater Core Rebuilding

=20

Bill;

Don't know the answer to your question but where does one get a Maradyne =
heater for their TR3? Do you know a part number? I've had my radiator =
cleaned and rebuilt but the heater core is in rough shape....

Thanks!!

Dave Friedlander

'59 TR3A

=20

On Sun, Sep 25, 2016 at 5:06 PM, Bill Brewer <billbrewer59@yahoo.com> =
wrote:

     The heater core in my Triumph Renown is leaking. Does anyone know =
of a rebuilder for TR3-type Smiths heaters? I would go with a Maradyne =
heater like I have in my TR3, but it is very visible in the Renown and =
wouldn=E2=80=99t look right.

     TIA,

=20

     Bill Brewer



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D'>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 The Maradyne fit well between the two dash =
supports without problems.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 color=3D"#1f497d" face=3DCalibri><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 I cut a notch with a hack saw about an inch =
long on both sides of the corner so the choke cable goes through the =
corner of the box. If you need, I can post a photo. I sort of =
don=E2=80=99t want to do it because I wish that I had made the notch =
bigger but am too lazy to pull the heater back out and do it again and =
don=E2=80=99t want to show everyone=E2=80=A6 The choke does work well =
enough as it is.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><font =
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style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 -Bill<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 color=3D"#1f497d" face=3DCalibri><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><font =
size=3D3 color=3D"#1f497d" face=3DCalibri><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font =
size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";font-weight:b=
old'>From:</span></font></b><font size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> David =
Friedlander [mailto:forzion7@gmail.com] <br><b><span =
style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Monday, September 26, 2016 =
8:51 AM<br><b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Bill =
Brewer<br><b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: =
Was Smiths Heater Core Rebuilding/Now Maradyne =
Heaters<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p><div><div><=
p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3D2 =
color=3D"#000099" face=3D"Comic Sans MS"><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans =
MS";color:#000099'>Bill;<br><br>&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp; =
&quot;...</span></font><font size=3D2 color=3D"#1f497d" face=3D"Comic =
Sans MS"><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans =
MS";color:#1F497D'>I also cut out a notch to better clear the TR3 choke =
cable....&quot;</span></font><font color=3D"#000099"><span =
style=3D'color:#000099'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3D2 =
color=3D"#1f497d" face=3D"Comic Sans MS"><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans =
MS";color:#1F497D'>Where is it you cut that notch? Did your battery box =
still have the <br>dash and cable support brackets on it or were those =
removed/not <br>present to allow for the new heater to sit flush against =
the heater <br>box?</span></font><font color=3D"#000099"><span =
style=3D'color:#000099'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3D"#1f497d" face=3D"Comic Sans =
MS"><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans =
MS";color:#1F497D'>Dave</span></font><font color=3D"#000099" =
face=3D"Comic Sans MS"><span style=3D'font-family:"Comic Sans =
MS";color:#000099'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p></div></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>On Mon, Sep 26, 2016 at 12:09 AM, Bill Brewer =
&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:billbrewer59@yahoo.com"; =
target=3D"_blank">billbrewer59@yahoo.com</a>&gt; =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font =
size=3D3 color=3D"#1f497d" face=3DCalibri><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Maradynes are aftermarket heaters =
designed for farm tractors or maybe a pickup truck. They almost slide =
straight in to where the original TR3 heater =
was.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font =
size=3D3 color=3D"#1f497d" face=3DCalibri><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; To make the Maradyne fit the TR3 better you =
need to disassemble it and reverse the heater core so the intake/exhaust =
is on the front of the heater and not the back. This way you can mount =
it flush against the battery box. I also cut out a notch to better clear =
the TR3 choke cable. Make the notch a lot bigger than you think it =
should be to avoid the choke cable having to bend. I used copper =
plumbing fittings from Lowes to reduce the fittings down to 3/8=E2=80=9D =
rigid copper pipe which has a 0.5=E2=80=9D OD to fit the TR3 heater =
hoses.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font =
size=3D3 color=3D"#1f497d" face=3DCalibri><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I have seen Maradynes mounted to the trans =
tunnel, but I don=E2=80=99t like the =
look.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font =
size=3D3 color=3D"#1f497d" face=3DCalibri><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I mounted my Maradyne to the back of the =
battery box using #10 SS sheet metal screws. I held it in place using =
double-sided tape while I was drilling the holes. I lined the bottom of =
the Maradyne even with the bottom of the battery box. You can barely see =
it under the dash. You can paint or upholster the heater to match your =
interior.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font =
size=3D3 color=3D"#1f497d" face=3DCalibri><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; The Maradyne seems to put out about 2 or 3 =
times as much heat as the original TR3 heater. Even with smooth =
defroster hoses I barely can get an ants fart to come out the defroster =
vents.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font =
size=3D3 color=3D"#1f497d" face=3DCalibri><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>&nbsp;</span></font><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font =
size=3D3 color=3D"#1f497d" face=3DCalibri><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <a =
href=3D"https://www.amazon.com/Maradyne-H-803012-Phoenix-Floor-Heater/dp/=
B00DZEZ0KS/ref=3Dpd_lpo_263_tr_t_3?ie=3DUTF8&amp;psc=3D1&amp;refRID=3DJT5=
1F1QH1ANE406VY6DQ" =
target=3D"_blank">https://www.amazon.com/Maradyne-H-803012-Phoenix-Floor-=
Heater/dp/B00DZEZ0KS/ref=3Dpd_lpo_263_tr_t_3?ie=3DUTF8&amp;psc=3D1&amp;re=
fRID=3DJT51F1QH1ANE406VY6DQ</a></span></font><o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font =
size=3D3 color=3D"#1f497d" face=3DCalibri><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>&nbsp;</span></font><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font =
size=3D3 color=3D"#1f497d" face=3DCalibri><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; They have two sizes of heaters. I would try =
to put in the bigger one (25,000 BTU) if =
possible.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font =
size=3D3 color=3D"#1f497d" face=3DCalibri><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Good luck!</span></font><o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font =
size=3D3 color=3D"#1f497d" face=3DCalibri><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>&nbsp;</span></font><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font =
size=3D3 color=3D"#1f497d" face=3DCalibri><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; -Bill Brewer</span></font><o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font =
size=3D3 color=3D"#1f497d" face=3DCalibri><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>&nbsp;</span></font><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><font =
size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";font-weight:b=
old'>From:</span></font></b><font size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> David =
Friedlander [mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:forzion7@gmail.com"; =
target=3D"_blank">forzion7@gmail.com</a>] <br><b><span =
style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Sunday, September 25, 2016 =
6:36 PM<br><b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Bill =
Brewer<br><b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: =
[TR] Smiths Heater Core Rebuilding</span></font><o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font =
size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><div><div><=
p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3D2 =
color=3D"#000099" face=3D"Comic Sans MS"><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans =
MS";color:#000099'>Bill;</span></font><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3D2 =
color=3D"#000099" face=3D"Comic Sans MS"><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans =
MS";color:#000099'>Don't know the answer to your question but where does =
one get a Maradyne heater for their TR3? Do you know a part number? I've =
had my radiator cleaned and rebuilt but the heater core is in rough =
shape....</span></font><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3D2 =
color=3D"#000099" face=3D"Comic Sans MS"><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans =
MS";color:#000099'>Thanks!!</span></font><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font =
size=3D2 color=3D"#000099" face=3D"Comic Sans MS"><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans =
MS";color:#000099'>Dave =
Friedlander</span></font><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font =
size=3D2 color=3D"#000099" face=3D"Comic Sans MS"><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#000099'>'59 =
TR3A</span></font><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font =
size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font =
size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>On =
Sun, Sep 25, 2016 at 5:06 PM, Bill Brewer &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:billbrewer59@yahoo.com"; =
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size=3D3 face=3DCalibri><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp; The heater core in my Triumph Renown is leaking. Does =
anyone know of a rebuilder for TR3-type Smiths heaters? I would go with =
a Maradyne heater like I have in my TR3, but it is very visible in the =
Renown and wouldn=E2=80=99t look right.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p><p =
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;&nbsp;&nbsp; TIA,</span></font><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font =
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8'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Bill =
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