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Re: [TR] Sufficient air filter space?

To: terryrs@comcast.net, TR3 Triumphs <triumphs@autox.team.net>, Andrew Uprichard <auprichard@uprichard.net>, ryel@mac.com
Subject: Re: [TR] Sufficient air filter space?
From: David Friedlander <forzion7@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2018 11:32:08 -0400
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Thanks, Terry. Looks like maybe the K&N 56-1400
will do the job, if anyone's wanting to know....

Dave



On Thu, Sep 13, 2018 at 10:25 AM TERRY SMITH <terryrs@comcast.net> wrote:

> Yep. For verification, you can compare the part numbers for air cleaners
> on Moss, and see where on the strombergs both the paper filter (HS6) and
> the mesh filter (H6) fit.  In any case, I'm running H6 and they fit mine.
>
> On September 12, 2018 at 8:11 PM David Friedlander <forzion7@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Are the filter-mounting holes the same distance/dimension on the HS6 and
> the H6 carbs?
>
> Dave
>
> On Wed, Sep 12, 2018, 7:53 PM TERRY SMITH < terryrs@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> Hi, Paul.  In terms of paper vs. steel mesh, I've done three options. One=
,
> I used the steel mesh original filters, but alone they don't capture enou=
gh
> dirt.  I impregnated them with oil but living on a three hundred yard
> dirt/dust driveway, I just couldn't have confidence the dust was being
> completely filtered.  Second, I added the foam surrounds for the steel me=
sh
> filters as some on the List have advised, but frankly they don't seem to
> have the porosity rating to capture smaller dust particles in the dusty
> environment I live in.  I wound up going with the bolt on paper filters.
> That would be these:
>
>
> 80  950-740 <https://mossmotors.com/air-filter-classic-gold?assoc=3D49376=
>
> AIR FILTER, =E2=80=9CClassic Gold=E2=80=9D brand  TR4A SU AUD209  $10.69
>
> Found at:
>
>
> https://mossmotors.com/triumph-tr2-3-4/fuel-intake-emissions/tr4a-carbure=
tors-su-hs6-1
>
> Terry
>
> On September 10, 2018 at 4:14 PM Paul Dorsey < dorpaul1@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Cool, thanks! Is paper element better the steel mesh?
>
> On Mon, Sep 10, 2018 at 3:48 PM Rye Livingston < ryel@mac.com> wrote:
>
> Good question and one that I think I asked the rep on the phone, because
> the model I needed and have seen on other Triumphs, the depth or thicknes=
s
> of the filter was less than the one that didn't fit and hit the fender
> wall.  They work well.
>
> Rye
> PH: 530-FIND-RYE
>
> On Sep 10, 2018, at 12:32 PM, Paul Dorsey < dorpaul1@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Does the width of the filter affect the SU's pperformance?
>
> On Mon, Sep 10, 2018 at 3:28 PM Rye Livingston < ryel@mac.com> wrote:
>
>
> The first ones I bought didn't fit, which I think came from Moss.  Hit th=
e
> inside fender.  I then called K&N directly and talked to a guy, because t=
he
> TR3 wasn't listed.  The rep I talked to was very helpful and he told me
> which model I needed, and they fit perfectly and was the best price I cou=
ld
> find online too.
>
> https://www.knfilters.com
>
> I see now they have a live chat option, and Tech@Knfilters.com.  I called
> the 800 # and talked to one of their reps directly.
>
> Good luck,
>
> Rye
>
>
>
>
> On Sep 10, 2018, at 12:06 PM, Paul Dorsey < dorpaul1@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I went to the k&n website, and they don't even show the triumph tr3
>
> On Mon, Sep 10, 2018 at 1:53 PM Rye Livingston < ryel@mac.com> wrote:
>
> I bought my K&N air filters off the K&N site.  Best price and they fit
>
> On Sep 09, 2018, at 07:43 PM, Paul Dorsey < dorpaul1@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>  Because of the engine torquing  and twisting I wonder if the height of
> the air filters that I get  Will make a difference. I hope the ones from
> Moss good ?
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:comic sa=
ns ms,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:#000099">Thanks, Terry. Looks like m=
aybe the K&amp;N 56-1400</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-fa=
mily:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:#000099">will do the jo=
b, if anyone&#39;s wanting to know....</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" st=
yle=3D"font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:#000099">=
<br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:comic sans ms,s=
ans-serif;font-size:large;color:#000099">Dave</div><div class=3D"gmail_defa=
ult" style=3D"font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:#0=
00099"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:comic sa=
ns ms,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:#000099"><br></div></div><br><div cl=
ass=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr">On Thu, Sep 13, 2018 at 10:25 AM TERRY=
 SMITH &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:terryrs@comcast.net";>terryrs@comcast.net</a>&g=
t; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 =
.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><u></u>

   =20
<div><p style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:helvetica,arial,sans-serif;colo=
r:rgb(51,51,51)">Yep. For verification, you can compare the part numbers fo=
r air cleaners on Moss, and see where on the strombergs both the paper filt=
er (HS6) and the mesh filter (H6) fit.=C2=A0 In any case, I&#39;m running H=
6 and they fit mine.<br></p><blockquote type=3D"cite">On September 12, 2018=
 at 8:11 PM David Friedlander &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:forzion7@gmail.com"; tar=
get=3D"_blank">forzion7@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote: <br> <br><div dir=3D"auto"=
>Are the filter-mounting holes the same distance/dimension on the HS6 and t=
he H6 carbs?<div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">Dave</div></div><=
br><div class=3D"m_-7052024691269302852ox-186dd16711-gmail_quote"><div dir=
=3D"ltr">On Wed, Sep 12, 2018, 7:53 PM TERRY SMITH &lt; <a href=3D"mailto:t=
erryrs@comcast.net" target=3D"_blank">terryrs@comcast.net</a>&gt; wrote: <b=
r></div><blockquote><u></u><div><p style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:helv=
etica,arial,sans-serif;color:#333333">Hi, Paul.=C2=A0 In terms of paper vs.=
 steel mesh, I&#39;ve done three options. One, I used the steel mesh origin=
al filters, but alone they don&#39;t capture enough dirt.=C2=A0 I impregnat=
ed them with oil but living on a three hundred yard dirt/dust driveway, I j=
ust couldn&#39;t have confidence the dust was being completely filtered.=C2=
=A0 Second, I added the foam surrounds for the steel mesh filters as some o=
n the List have advised, but frankly they don&#39;t seem to have the porosi=
ty rating to capture smaller dust particles in the dusty environment I live=
 in.=C2=A0 I wound up going with the bolt on paper filters.=C2=A0 That woul=
d be these:<br></p><p style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:helvetica,arial,s=
ans-serif;color:#333333"><br></p><p><span class=3D"m_-7052024691269302852ox=
-186dd16711-m_8015338868507335872schematic-key">80=C2=A0 </span><a href=3D"=
https://mossmotors.com/air-filter-classic-gold?assoc=3D49376"; rel=3D"noopen=
er" target=3D"_blank"> 950-740 </a>=C2=A0 AIR FILTER, =E2=80=9CClassic Gold=
=E2=80=9D brand=C2=A0 TR4A SU AUD209=C2=A0 <span class=3D"m_-70520246912693=
02852ox-186dd16711-m_8015338868507335872regular-price"> <span class=3D"m_-7=
052024691269302852ox-186dd16711-m_8015338868507335872price">$10.69</span> <=
/span></p><div class=3D"m_-7052024691269302852ox-186dd16711-m_8015338868507=
335872price-box"><span class=3D"m_-7052024691269302852ox-186dd16711-m_80153=
38868507335872regular-price"><span class=3D"m_-7052024691269302852ox-186dd1=
6711-m_8015338868507335872price"><br></span></span></div><div class=3D"m_-7=
052024691269302852ox-186dd16711-m_8015338868507335872price-box"><span class=
=3D"m_-7052024691269302852ox-186dd16711-m_8015338868507335872regular-price"=
><span class=3D"m_-7052024691269302852ox-186dd16711-m_8015338868507335872pr=
ice">Found at:<br></span></span></div><div class=3D"m_-7052024691269302852o=
x-186dd16711-m_8015338868507335872price-box"><span class=3D"m_-705202469126=
9302852ox-186dd16711-m_8015338868507335872regular-price"><span class=3D"m_-=
7052024691269302852ox-186dd16711-m_8015338868507335872price"><br></span></s=
pan></div><div class=3D"m_-7052024691269302852ox-186dd16711-m_8015338868507=
335872price-box"><span class=3D"m_-7052024691269302852ox-186dd16711-m_80153=
38868507335872regular-price"><span class=3D"m_-7052024691269302852ox-186dd1=
6711-m_8015338868507335872price"><a href=3D"https://mossmotors.com/triumph-=
tr2-3-4/fuel-intake-emissions/tr4a-carburetors-su-hs6-1" rel=3D"noopener" t=
arget=3D"_blank">https://mossmotors.com/triumph-tr2-3-4/fuel-intake-emissio=
ns/tr4a-carburetors-su-hs6-1</a></span></span><br></div><div class=3D"m_-70=
52024691269302852ox-186dd16711-m_8015338868507335872price-box"><span class=
=3D"m_-7052024691269302852ox-186dd16711-m_8015338868507335872regular-price"=
><span class=3D"m_-7052024691269302852ox-186dd16711-m_8015338868507335872pr=
ice"><br></span></span></div><div class=3D"m_-7052024691269302852ox-186dd16=
711-m_8015338868507335872price-box"><span class=3D"m_-7052024691269302852ox=
-186dd16711-m_8015338868507335872regular-price"><span class=3D"m_-705202469=
1269302852ox-186dd16711-m_8015338868507335872price">Terry<br></span></span>=
</div><blockquote type=3D"cite">On September 10, 2018 at 4:14 PM Paul Dorse=
y &lt; <a href=3D"mailto:dorpaul1@gmail.com"; rel=3D"noopener" target=3D"_bl=
ank">dorpaul1@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote: <br> <br><div dir=3D"ltr">Cool, than=
ks! Is paper element better the steel mesh? <br></div><br><div class=3D"m_-=
7052024691269302852ox-186dd16711-m_8015338868507335872ox-514aa88a83-gmail_q=
uote"><div dir=3D"ltr">On Mon, Sep 10, 2018 at 3:48 PM Rye Livingston &lt; =
<a href=3D"mailto:ryel@mac.com"; rel=3D"noopener" target=3D"_blank">ryel@mac=
.com</a>&gt; wrote: <br></div><blockquote><div><div>Good question and one t=
hat I think I asked the rep on the phone, because the model I needed and ha=
ve seen on other Triumphs, the depth or thickness of the filter was less th=
an the one that didn&#39;t fit and hit the fender wall.=C2=A0 They work wel=
l.</div><div>=C2=A0=C2=A0</div><div class=3D"m_-7052024691269302852ox-186dd=
16711-m_8015338868507335872ox-514aa88a83-m_-3306014965077269093x-apple-sign=
ature">Rye <br>PH: 530-FIND-RYE</div><div><br>On Sep 10, 2018, at 12:32 PM,=
 Paul Dorsey &lt; <a href=3D"mailto:dorpaul1@gmail.com"; rel=3D"noopener" ta=
rget=3D"_blank">dorpaul1@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote: <br> <br></div><div><bloc=
kquote type=3D"cite"><div class=3D"m_-7052024691269302852ox-186dd16711-m_80=
15338868507335872ox-514aa88a83-m_-3306014965077269093msg-quote"><div dir=3D=
"ltr">Does the width of the filter affect the SU&#39;s pperformance?</div><=
br><div class=3D"m_-7052024691269302852ox-186dd16711-m_8015338868507335872o=
x-514aa88a83-gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr">On Mon, Sep 10, 2018 at 3:28 PM =
Rye Livingston &lt; <a href=3D"mailto:ryel@mac.com"; rel=3D"noopener" target=
=3D"_blank">ryel@mac.com</a>&gt; wrote: <br></div><blockquote><div><div><br=
></div><div>The first ones I bought didn&#39;t fit, which I think came from=
 Moss.=C2=A0 Hit the inside fender.=C2=A0 I then called K&amp;N directly an=
d talked to a guy, because the TR3 wasn&#39;t listed.=C2=A0 The rep I talke=
d to was very helpful and he told me which model I needed, and they fit per=
fectly and was the best price I could find online too.</div><div><br></div>=
<div><a href=3D"https://www.knfilters.com"; rel=3D"noopener" target=3D"_blan=
k">https://www.knfilters.com</a> <br></div><div><br></div><div>I see now th=
ey have a live chat option, and <a href=3D"mailto:Tech@Knfilters.com"; rel=
=3D"noopener" target=3D"_blank">Tech@Knfilters.com</a>.=C2=A0 I called the =
800 # and talked to one of their reps directly.</div><div><br></div><div>Go=
od luck,</div><div><br></div><div>Rye</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><d=
iv><br></div><div><br></div><div>On Sep 10, 2018, at 12:06 PM, Paul Dorsey =
&lt; <a href=3D"mailto:dorpaul1@gmail.com"; rel=3D"noopener" target=3D"_blan=
k">dorpaul1@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote: <br> <br></div><div><blockquote type=
=3D"cite"><div class=3D"m_-7052024691269302852ox-186dd16711-m_8015338868507=
335872ox-514aa88a83-m_-3306014965077269093m_2595904822186175743msg-quote"><=
div dir=3D"ltr">I went to the k&amp;n website, and they don&#39;t even show=
 the triumph tr3</div><br><div class=3D"m_-7052024691269302852ox-186dd16711=
-m_8015338868507335872ox-514aa88a83-gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr">On Mon, S=
ep 10, 2018 at 1:53 PM Rye Livingston &lt; <a href=3D"mailto:ryel@mac.com"; =
rel=3D"noopener" target=3D"_blank">ryel@mac.com</a>&gt; wrote: <br></div><b=
lockquote><div><div>I bought my K&amp;N air filters off the K&amp;N site.=
=C2=A0 Best price and they fit</div><div><br>On Sep 09, 2018, at 07:43 PM, =
Paul Dorsey &lt; <a href=3D"mailto:dorpaul1@gmail.com"; rel=3D"noopener" tar=
get=3D"_blank">dorpaul1@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote: <br> <br></div><div><block=
quote type=3D"cite"><div class=3D"m_-7052024691269302852ox-186dd16711-m_801=
5338868507335872ox-514aa88a83-m_-3306014965077269093m_2595904822186175743m_=
-2411632173171148237msg-quote"><div dir=3D"auto">=C2=A0Because of the engin=
e torquing =C2=A0and twisting I wonder if the height of the air filters tha=
t I get =C2=A0Will make a difference. I hope the ones from Moss good ?</div=
><div class=3D"m_-7052024691269302852ox-186dd16711-m_8015338868507335872ox-=
514aa88a83-m_-3306014965077269093m_2595904822186175743m_-241163217317114823=
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