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Re: [TR] TR4 engine question

To: "Wbeech@flash.net" <wbeech@flash.net>
Subject: Re: [TR] TR4 engine question
From: "Guy D. Huggins" <gdhuggins@genfiniti.com>
Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2019 12:50:55 -0600
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Sometimes hot spots can act as an artificial spark plug.  For example, if th=
ere is a sharp edge on a new exhaust valve.  It could get hot enough to igni=
te the fuel remaining in the system.

Kind Regards,

Guy D. Huggins

> On Feb 26, 2019, at 10:14 AM, Wbeech@flash.net <wbeech@flash.net> wrote:
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> Same problem here with the TR3 motor in the Morgan, but not the TR3.  I do=
n=E2=80=99t see how ignition timing could affect it as it is turned off.  I u=
sed to hear it was due to carbon buildup continuing to ignite fuel, but that=
 doesn=E2=80=99t fly for a fresh engine. =20
>=20
> I=E2=80=99m going to lean the mixture a little and see if that makes any d=
ifference.  Till then, Dave=E2=80=99s method of easing the clutch out seems t=
o be the accepted workaround. =20
>=20
> Bill
> TS30800L
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> Sent from my DynaTAC 8000X
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> On Feb 26, 2019, at 8:46 AM, Andrew Uprichard <auprichard@uprichard.net> w=
rote:
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> Assuming everything else (timing, carburation) is set, do you have an elec=
tric fan?  My TR3 runs on if the fan is still on when I turn the ignition of=
f.
> =20
> Andrew Uprichard
> Jackson, Michigan
> =20
> From: Triumphs [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of DAVID=
 MASSEY
> Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2019 7:34 AM
> To: trguy75@gmail.com; Triumphs@autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [TR] TR4 engine question
> =20
> First off, congratulations on your win.
> =20
> Secondly, do what I do.  Put the car in fourth gear and let the clutch out=
 as you switch off.  Be sure to set the brake first.  My TR6 diesels even wi=
th the anti-run-on valve.  So does the TR3.
> =20
> Dave
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> =20
> =20
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jim Henningsen <trguy75@gmail.com>
> To: 'triumphs' <Triumphs@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Mon, Feb 25, 2019 9:41 pm
> Subject: [TR] TR4 engine question
>=20
> Fresh TR4 engine that does that "dieseling" thing after you turn off the
> key.  It like it tries to keep running but with a cough and then stops.  T=
he
> TR6 has an anti-run on valve to help with that.  What do I treat on a TR4
> motor?  P.S.  So proud that after 8 years putting my 4 back together stock=
,
> I won first place in the sports car group at the AACC winter national.=20
> Thanks
> Jim Henningsen
> Ocala, FL
> =20
> 61 TR3A
> 62 TR4
> 75 TR6
> =20
> =20
> =20
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto">Sometimes hot spots can act as an artificia=
l spark plug. &nbsp;For example, if there is a sharp edge on a new exhaust v=
alve. &nbsp;It could get hot enough to ignite the fuel remaining in the syst=
em.<br><br><div id=3D"AppleMailSignature" dir=3D"ltr">Kind Regards,<div><br>=
</div><div>Guy D. Huggins</div></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br>On Feb 26, 2019, a=
t 10:14 AM, <a href=3D"mailto:Wbeech@flash.net";>Wbeech@flash.net</a> &lt;<a h=
ref=3D"mailto:wbeech@flash.net";>wbeech@flash.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div=
><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr"><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type=
" content=3D"text/html; charset=3Dutf-8">Same problem here with the TR3 moto=
r in the Morgan, but not the TR3. &nbsp;I don=E2=80=99t see how ignition tim=
ing could affect it as it is turned off. &nbsp;I used to hear it was due to c=
arbon buildup continuing to ignite fuel, but that doesn=E2=80=99t fly for a f=
resh engine. &nbsp;<div><br></div><div>I=E2=80=99m going to lean the mixture=
 a little and see if that makes any difference. &nbsp;Till then, Dave=E2=80=99=
s method of easing the clutch out seems to be the accepted workaround. &nbsp=
;</div><div><br></div><div>Bill</div><div>TS30800L<br><br><div id=3D"AppleMa=
ilSignature" dir=3D"ltr">Sent from my DynaTAC 8000X</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><b=
r>On Feb 26, 2019, at 8:46 AM, Andrew Uprichard &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:aupric=
hard@uprichard.net">auprichard@uprichard.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><di=
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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--><div class=3D"WordSection1"><p class=3D"Ms=
oNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Assuming everything e=
lse (timing, carburation) is set, do you have an electric fan?&nbsp; My TR3 r=
uns on if the fan is still on when I turn the ignition off.<o:p></o:p></span=
></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"><=
o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:1=
1.0pt;color:#1F497D">Andrew Uprichard<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNo=
rmal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Jackson, Michigan<o:p><=
/o:p></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;color=
:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D=
"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">From:=
</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&q=
uot;sans-serif&quot;"> Triumphs [<a href=3D"mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.te=
am.net">mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>DAVI=
D MASSEY<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, February 26, 2019 7:34 AM<br><b>To:</b> <a=
 href=3D"mailto:trguy75@gmail.com";>trguy75@gmail.com</a>; <a href=3D"mailto:=
Triumphs@autox.team.net">Triumphs@autox.team.net</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [=
TR] TR4 engine question<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nb=
sp;</o:p></p><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Ar=
ial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">First off, congratulations on y=
our win.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D=
"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black"><o:p>&nbs=
p;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-fam=
ily:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">Secondly, do what I=
 do.&nbsp; Put the car in fourth gear and let the clutch out as you switch o=
ff.&nbsp; Be sure to set the brake first.&nbsp; My TR6 diesels even with the=
 anti-run-on valve.&nbsp; So does the TR3.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><=
p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;san=
s-serif&quot;;color:black"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3D=
"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style=3D"font-size:13.5pt;f=
ont-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">Dave </span=
><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:b=
lack"><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D=
"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black"><o:p>&nbs=
p;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-fam=
ily:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p><=
/span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt"><=
span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-seri=
f&quot;;color:black">-----Original Message-----<br>From: Jim Henningsen &lt;=
<a href=3D"mailto:trguy75@gmail.com";>trguy75@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>To: 'trium=
phs' &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:Triumphs@autox.team.net";>Triumphs@autox.team.net<=
/a>&gt;<br>Sent: Mon, Feb 25, 2019 9:41 pm<br>Subject: [TR] TR4 engine quest=
ion<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-siz=
e:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">Fre=
sh TR4 engine that does that "dieseling" thing after you turn off the<o:p></=
o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10=
.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">key.&=
nbsp; It like it tries to keep running but with a cough and then stops.&nbsp=
; The<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"=
font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:=
black">TR6 has an anti-run on valve to help with that.&nbsp; What do I treat=
 on a TR4<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=
=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;co=
lor:black">motor?&nbsp; P.S.&nbsp; So proud that after 8 years putting my 4 b=
ack together stock,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><=
span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-seri=
f&quot;;color:black">I won first place in the sports car group at the AACC w=
inter national.&nbsp; <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal=
"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-s=
erif&quot;;color:black">Thanks<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"M=
soNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quo=
t;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">Jim Henningsen<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><d=
iv><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;=
Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">Ocala, FL<o:p></o:p></span><=
/p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-fa=
mily:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p>=
</span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt=
;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">61 TR3A<o=
:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-si=
ze:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">=
62 TR4<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D=
"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color=
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