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Hi, Dave. Yes, he did the rebuild on the 25D dizzy I'm running now. It's =
a points distributor with a Pertronix modification, so luckily don't have t=
o deal with the entire distributor. And agree, he does good work. =20
> On May 15, 2019 at 11:55 PM DAVE HOGYE <dlhogye@comcast.net> wrote:
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> I always refer distributor issues to Jeff at Advanced Distributors. =
He knows distributors for British cars like no one else. His work and rebu=
ilds are perfect. Either points or Pertronix.
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> I don't have direct contact info handy, but Advanced Distributors is =
easy to find. =20
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> Thanks for sharing what you have found. I'll check mine asap. I've =
been wanting to send Jeff a couple distributors to have a couple spares, on=
e points and one Pertronix. I also have 2 other cars that will need fresh =
distributors eventually. =20
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> Dave H.
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> > > On May 15, 2019 at 7:57 PM TERRY SMITH <terryrs@comcast.net> =
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> > Thanks, Bob. That's my read as well. I'll report if the repla=
cement I've ordered from BP North doesn't fix it.
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> > > > > On May 15, 2019 at 10:54 PM Kinderlehrer <kinderlehre=
r@comcast.net> wrote:
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> > > I=E2=80=99ve had 2 of them fail with the magnets in the c=
ollar getting all askew. Doesn=E2=80=99t run well like that.
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> > > Bob
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> > > From: Triumphs [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] O=
n Behalf Of Randall
> > > Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2019 7:45 PM
> > > To: TERRY SMITH; triumphs@autox.team.net
> > > Subject: Re: [TR] Pertronix Failure?
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> > > Well, maybe. Is it loose on the point can? Or does the po=
int cam just turn back and forth a bit?
> > > Or does the whole mess move side to side?
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> > > It normal for the point cam to be able to turn slightly. =
But there should be no side to side play; and the plastic piece should be t=
ight on the point cam.
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> > > Side play is usually a sign of wear in the shaft bushing.=
If the plastic piece is loose, its probably just time, heat and vibration =
vs cheap plastic.
> > > -- Randall
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> > > On 15 May 2019 18:41:10 GMT-07:00, TERRY SMITH <terryrs@c=
omcast.net mailto:terryrs@comcast.net > wrote:
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> > > Okay, so I was wrong. I thought the intermittent engine =
miss on the TR3 had to do with a dislodged damper on the forward carb. Tes=
t drive said no, engine still stumbled, cleared, stumbled again. Changed f=
uel filters out because they were due anyway. Problem persisted. Checked =
the floats movements, all fine. Problem persisted. Finally just swapped t=
he carbs entirely with spares that I knew worked, problem persisted. So...=
not fuel. If it were valves, it wouldn't be intermittent, unless a valve w=
ere sticking, right? =20
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> > > Next up assumption is it's electrical. Swapped the distr=
ibutor, wires and rotor with spares I knew worked. Problem persisted. Che=
cked for potential electrical shorts. Nothing obvious. Yeesh!
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> > > I run a Pertronix. Went online and read about Pertronix =
troubleshooting. Piece I read mentioned that the trigger magnet that spins=
on the rotor can come loose and affect the timing. I checked this and LO!=
The trigger magnet is indeed loose. I seem to remember when I put it on =
some eight or nine years ago, that it went on tight. But it now wiggles ab=
out an eighth of an inch back and forth, maybe a bit more. =20
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> > > So question. Do I remember correctly, it's supposed to b=
e tight? And second, what would cause it to come loose over time?
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> > > I know it could still be a sticking valve, but this first=
. Thanks, everyone for patience with this long message.
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> > > Terry Smith, '59 TR3A
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> > > New Hampshire
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</head><body><p style=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-family: helvetica, arial, sa=
ns-serif; color: rgb(51, 51, 51);">Hi, Dave.  Yes, he did the rebuild =
on the 25D dizzy I'm running now.  It's a points distributor w=
ith a Pertronix modification, so luckily don't have to deal with the en=
tire distributor.  And agree, he does good work.  </p><block=
quote type=3D"cite">On May 15, 2019 at 11:55 PM DAVE HOGYE <dlhogye@com=
cast.net> wrote: <br> <br><p style=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-family: hel=
vetica, arial, sans-serif; color: #333333;">I always refer distributor issu=
es to Jeff at Advanced Distributors.  He knows distributors for Britis=
h cars like no one else.  His work and rebuilds are perfect.  Eit=
her points or Pertronix.</p><p style=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-family: helve=
tica, arial, sans-serif; color: #333333;">I don't have direct contact i=
nfo handy, but Advanced Distributors is easy to find.  </p><p sty=
le=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif; color: #3=
33333;">Thanks for sharing what you have found.  I'll check mine a=
sap.  I've been wanting to send Jeff a couple distributors to have=
a couple spares, one points and one Pertronix.  I also have 2 other c=
ars that will need fresh distributors eventually.  </p><p style=
=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif; color: #333=
333;">Dave H.</p><blockquote type=3D"cite">On May 15, 2019 at 7:57 PM TERRY=
SMITH <terryrs@comcast.net> wrote: <br> <br><p style=3D"font-size:=
12pt; font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif; color: #333333;">Thanks, =
Bob.  That's my read as well.  I'll report if the replace=
ment I've ordered from BP North doesn't fix it.</p><blockquote type=
=3D"cite">On May 15, 2019 at 10:54 PM Kinderlehrer <kinderlehrer@comcas=
t.net> wrote: <br> <br><div class=3D"ox-aa2707c444-ox-dae86b1d70-ox-7c2=
3cf25df-WordSection1"><p class=3D"ox-aa2707c444-ox-dae86b1d70-ox-7c23cf25df=
-MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 11.0pt; font-family: 'Calibri','sans-=
serif'; color: #1f497d;">I’ve had 2 of them fail with the magnets in =
the collar getting all askew. Doesn’t run well like that. </span></p>=
<p class=3D"ox-aa2707c444-ox-dae86b1d70-ox-7c23cf25df-MsoNormal"><span styl=
e=3D"font-size: 11.0pt; font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: #1f497d=
;">   </span></p><p class=3D"ox-aa2707c444-ox-dae86b1d70-ox-7c23cf25df=
-MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 11.0pt; font-family: 'Calibri','sans-=
serif'; color: #1f497d;">Bob </span></p><p class=3D"ox-aa2707c444-ox-dae86b=
1d70-ox-7c23cf25df-MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 11.0pt; font-family=
: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: #1f497d;">   </span></p><div><div sty=
le=3D"border: none; border-top: solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt; padding: 3.0pt 0in 0in=
0in;"><p class=3D"ox-aa2707c444-ox-dae86b1d70-ox-7c23cf25df-MsoNormal"><st=
rong><span style=3D"font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: 'Tahoma','sans-serif';"=
>From:</span></strong><span style=3D"font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: 'Tahom=
a','sans-serif';"> Triumphs [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] <stron=
g>On Behalf Of </strong>Randall<br><strong>Sent:</strong> Wednesday, May 15=
, 2019 7:45 PM<br><strong>To:</strong> TERRY SMITH; triumphs@autox.team.net=
<br><strong>Subject:</strong> Re: [TR] Pertronix Failure? </span></p></div>=
</div><p class=3D"ox-aa2707c444-ox-dae86b1d70-ox-7c23cf25df-MsoNormal">=
0;</p><p class=3D"ox-aa2707c444-ox-dae86b1d70-ox-7c23cf25df-MsoNormal" styl=
e=3D"margin-bottom: 12.0pt;">Well, maybe. Is it loose on the point can? Or =
does the point cam just turn back and forth a bit?<br>Or does the whole mes=
s move side to side?<br><br>It normal for the point cam to be able to turn =
slightly. But there should be no side to side play; and the plastic piece s=
hould be tight on the point cam.<br><br>Side play is usually a sign of wear=
in the shaft bushing. If the plastic piece is loose, its probably just tim=
e, heat and vibration vs cheap plastic.<br>-- Randall</p><div><p class=3D"o=
x-aa2707c444-ox-dae86b1d70-ox-7c23cf25df-MsoNormal">On 15 May 2019 18:41:10=
GMT-07:00, TERRY SMITH <<a href=3D"mailto:terryrs@comcast.net";>terryrs=
@comcast.net</a>> wrote:</p><p class=3D"ox-aa2707c444-ox-dae86b1d70-ox-=
7c23cf25df-default-style"><span style=3D"font-family: 'Helvetica','sans-ser=
if'; color: #333333;">Okay, so I was wrong.  I thought the intermitten=
t engine miss on the TR3 had to do with a dislodged damper on the forward c=
arb.  Test drive said no, engine still stumbled, cleared, stumbled aga=
in.  Changed fuel filters out because they were due anyway.  Prob=
lem persisted.  Checked the floats movements, all fine.  Problem =
persisted.  Finally just swapped the carbs entirely with spares that I=
knew worked, problem persisted.  So...not fuel.  If it were valv=
es, it wouldn't be intermittent, unless a valve were sticking, right?&#=
160;  </span></p><p class=3D"ox-aa2707c444-ox-dae86b1d70-ox-7c23cf25df=
-default-style"><span style=3D"font-family: 'Helvetica','sans-serif'; color=
: #333333;">   </span></p><p class=3D"ox-aa2707c444-ox-dae86b1d70-ox-7=
c23cf25df-default-style"><span style=3D"font-family: 'Helvetica','sans-seri=
f'; color: #333333;">Next up assumption is it's electrical.  Swapp=
ed the distributor, wires and rotor with spares I knew worked.  Proble=
m persisted.  Checked for potential electrical shorts.  Nothing o=
bvious.  Yeesh! </span></p><p class=3D"ox-aa2707c444-ox-dae86b1d70-ox-=
7c23cf25df-default-style"><span style=3D"font-family: 'Helvetica','sans-ser=
if'; color: #333333;">   </span></p><p class=3D"ox-aa2707c444-ox-dae86=
b1d70-ox-7c23cf25df-default-style"><span style=3D"font-family: 'Helvetica',=
'sans-serif'; color: #333333;">I run a Pertronix.  Went online and rea=
d about Pertronix troubleshooting.  Piece I read mentioned that the tr=
igger magnet that spins on the rotor can come loose and affect the timing.&=
#160; I checked this and LO!  The trigger magnet is indeed loose. =
; I seem to remember when I put it on some eight or nine years ago, th=
at it went on tight.  But it now wiggles about an eighth of an inch ba=
ck and forth, maybe a bit more.   </span></p><p class=3D"ox-aa270=
7c444-ox-dae86b1d70-ox-7c23cf25df-default-style"><span style=3D"font-family=
: 'Helvetica','sans-serif'; color: #333333;">   </span></p><p class=3D=
"ox-aa2707c444-ox-dae86b1d70-ox-7c23cf25df-default-style"><span style=3D"fo=
nt-family: 'Helvetica','sans-serif'; color: #333333;">So question.  Do=
I remember correctly, it's supposed to be tight?  And second, wha=
t would cause it to come loose over time? </span></p><p class=3D"ox-aa2707c=
444-ox-dae86b1d70-ox-7c23cf25df-default-style"><span style=3D"font-family: =
'Helvetica','sans-serif'; color: #333333;">   </span></p><p class=3D"o=
x-aa2707c444-ox-dae86b1d70-ox-7c23cf25df-default-style"><span style=3D"font=
-family: 'Helvetica','sans-serif'; color: #333333;">I know it could still b=
e a sticking valve, but this first.  Thanks, everyone for patience wit=
h this long message. </span></p><p class=3D"ox-aa2707c444-ox-dae86b1d70-ox-=
7c23cf25df-default-style"><span style=3D"font-family: 'Helvetica','sans-ser=
if'; color: #333333;">   </span></p><p class=3D"ox-aa2707c444-ox-dae86=
b1d70-ox-7c23cf25df-default-style"><span style=3D"font-family: 'Helvetica',=
'sans-serif'; color: #333333;">Terry Smith, '59 TR3A </span></p><p clas=
s=3D"ox-aa2707c444-ox-dae86b1d70-ox-7c23cf25df-default-style"><span style=
=3D"font-family: 'Helvetica','sans-serif'; color: #333333;">New Hampshire <=
/span></p></div></div></blockquote><p style=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-family=
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