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Re: [TR] clutch issue

To: "Alex & Janet Thomson" <aljlthomson@charter.net>
Subject: Re: [TR] clutch issue
From: Greg Lemon <grglmn@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 19 May 2019 09:50:23 -0500
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I went through many years of never having this problems, but recently have
have several instances.  The one that is suggest as fool proof is starting
the car in gear if you can and running around on off throttle quickly until
it pops.  I never tried it for variety of reasons.  If you had a big open
parking lot you could use, guess it would be ok.

My BMW 2002 I bought with a stuck clutch didn't respond to anything and I
ended up pulling the tranny.  By the time I had muscled it out to drop it
the clutch disk just dropped out.

My TR250 has done it a couple times now after winter storage, and has been
pretty easy to pop.

Greg Lemon


On Sun, May 19, 2019, 6:59 AM Alex & Janet Thomson <aljlthomson@charter.net=
>
wrote:

> I have found that if the disk is actually rusted to the pressure plate, i=
t
> may be very difficult to make it release by the shock method. A three yea=
r
> lay-up is a considerable amount of time =E2=80=93 especially if mice have=
 gotten in
> there and made a mess. I have had better luck on some trucks and tractors
> by removing the sheet metal flywheel cover underneath the bell housing an=
d
> freeing up the offending disk with a screwdriver or thin chisel while
> someone has the clutch pedal pressed down. No inspection plate? I once us=
ed
> a hole saw to make a 1.5=E2=80=9D hole in the bottom of the clutch housin=
g on a
> Ford 801 tractor that was equipped with a full frame loader. It was a maj=
or
> chance I was taking between estimating the location of the flywheel/clutc=
h
> disk interface, not hitting any internal hydraulic lines, and not finding
> that the tractor was equipped with a recessed =E2=80=93surface flywheel. =
It worked!
> A lot easier than splitting the tractor. A =E2=80=9954 Chevy 6400 truck h=
ad the
> sheet metal cover that I mentioned earlier and that was the real easy one=
.
> In both cases, I tried the usual tricks of backing up against a tree, sho=
ck
> shifting, etc. No luck with those attempts.
>
>
>
> But, as other responders have mentioned, make sure that the clutch releas=
e
> mechanism is working first. Sort of like rebuilding an engine to cure the
> no-start situation just to find the fuel tank was dry.
>
>
>
> Alex Thomson
>
>
>
> *From:* Triumphs [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] *On Behalf Of *
> dave
> *Sent:* Saturday, May 18, 2019 12:35 PM
> *To:* triumphs@autox.team.net
> *Subject:* [TR] clutch issue
>
>
>
> This is an mga, but I think the concept is the same.
>
>
>
> Car sat for 3 years and now the clutch doesn=E2=80=99t work.
>
>
>
> Could be clutch replacement but someone suggested that maybe the clutch
> and pressure plate have rusted together?  is there a way, short of pullin=
g
> it, to separate them?
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<div dir=3D"auto">I went through many years of never having this problems, =
but recently have have several instances.=C2=A0 The one that is suggest as =
fool proof is starting the car in gear if you can and running around on off=
 throttle quickly until it pops.=C2=A0 I never tried it for variety of reas=
ons.=C2=A0 If you had a big open parking lot you could use, guess it would =
be ok.=C2=A0=C2=A0<div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">My BMW 2002=
 I bought with a stuck clutch didn&#39;t respond to anything and I ended up=
 pulling the tranny.=C2=A0 By the time I had muscled it out to drop it the =
clutch disk just dropped out.</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"=
auto">My TR250 has done it a couple times now after winter storage, and has=
 been pretty easy to pop.</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto=
">Greg Lemon</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail=
_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sun, May 19, 2019, 6:59 AM=
 Alex &amp; Janet Thomson &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:aljlthomson@charter.net";>al=
jlthomson@charter.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_qu=
ote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex=
"><div lang=3D"EN-US" link=3D"#0563C1" vlink=3D"#954F72"><div class=3D"m_-4=
566245426361564474WordSection1"><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-=
size:12.0pt;color:#1f497d">I have found that if the disk is actually rusted=
 to the pressure plate, it may be very difficult to make it release by the =
shock method. A three year lay-up is a considerable amount of time =E2=80=
=93 especially if mice have gotten in there and made a mess. I have had bet=
ter luck on some trucks and tractors by removing the sheet metal flywheel c=
over underneath the bell housing and freeing up the offending disk with a s=
crewdriver or thin chisel while someone has the clutch pedal pressed down. =
No inspection plate? I once used a hole saw to make a 1.5=E2=80=9D hole in =
the bottom of the clutch housing on a Ford 801 tractor that was equipped wi=
th a full frame loader. It was a major chance I was taking between estimati=
ng the location of the flywheel/clutch disk interface, not hitting any inte=
rnal hydraulic lines, and not finding that the tractor was equipped with a =
recessed =E2=80=93surface flywheel. It worked! A lot easier than splitting =
the tractor. A =E2=80=9954 Chevy 6400 truck had the sheet metal cover that =
I mentioned earlier and that was the real easy one. In both cases, I tried =
the usual tricks of backing up against a tree, shock shifting, etc. No luck=
 with those attempts.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span =
style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;color:#1f497d"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><p =
class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;color:#1f497d">But, as =
other responders have mentioned, make sure that the clutch release mechanis=
m is working first. Sort of like rebuilding an engine to cure the no-start =
situation just to find the fuel tank was dry.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p cl=
ass=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;color:#1f497d"><u></u>=C2=
=A0<u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt=
;color:#1f497d">Alex Thomson<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"=
><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;color:#1f497d"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span>=
</p><div><div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #b5c4df 1.0pt;padding:3=
.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt=
;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">From:</span></b><sp=
an style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-seri=
f&quot;"> Triumphs [mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.ne=
t" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net</a>=
] <b>On Behalf Of </b>dave<br><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, May 18, 2019 12:35 PM<=
br><b>To:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank" =
rel=3D"noreferrer">triumphs@autox.team.net</a><br><b>Subject:</b> [TR] clut=
ch issue<u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=
=C2=A0<u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">This is an mga, but I think the con=
cept is the same.<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u><=
/u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Car sat for 3 years and now the clutch doesn=
=E2=80=99t work.<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></=
u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Could be clutch replacement but someone sugges=
ted that maybe the clutch and pressure plate have rusted together?=C2=A0 is=
 there a way, short of pulling it, to separate them?<u></u><u></u></p></div=
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