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To: Stan Foster <stan@redtr6.com>
Subject: Re: [TR] anyone have experience using APR head bolts
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Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2019 10:51:31 -0500
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I back off just enough to move the nut, they sometimes stick, then on to the=
 determined setting.  I don=E2=80=99t re-lube, others may.=20
Bill B

On Sep 6, 2019, at 9:36 AM, Stan Foster <stan@redtr6.com> wrote:

When re-torquing ARP head studs, do you need to back off the nut and lube th=
e nut and washer before you re-tighten ?.
=20
Stan
=20
From: Triumphs <triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Jerry Van Vlac=
k
Sent: Friday, September 6, 2019 6:58 AM
To: Wbeech@flash.net; Sujit Roy <triumphstag@gmail.com>
Cc: Triumphs <triumphs@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [TR] anyone have experience using APR head bolts
=20
I did not re-torque my ARP=E2=80=99s after a TR4A rebuild and 2 years later b=
lew a head gasket with no evidence of burn thru. Studs were loose and nuts c=
ame off much to easily. My fault as I always intended to do a re-torque but d=
idn=E2=80=99t.
=20
From: Wbeech@flash.net
Sent: Thursday, September 5, 2019 6:17 PM
To: Sujit Roy
Cc: Triumphs
Subject: Re: [TR] anyone have experience using APR head bolts
=20
Have used APR on my last 3 TR3 rebuilds, never a problem.  Never heard anyth=
ing about not having to re-torque.   I do after 2-3 heat cycles then again a=
t 200 mile with the first oil change. =20
Bill

Sent from my IBM 8088

On Sep 5, 2019, at 5:10 PM, Sujit Roy <triumphstag@gmail.com> wrote:

I used ARP head bolts on my last Stag. I torqued down the head, but never in=
 the last 5 or so years did I re-torque the heads. I recall speaking to a te=
chnician over at APR and he said no need to re-torque  I have not run into a=
n issue. But am wondering what other's have to say.
=20
=20
Sujit
=20
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ove the nut, they sometimes stick, then on to the determined setting. &nbsp;=
I don=E2=80=99t re-lube, others may.&nbsp;</div><div dir=3D"ltr">Bill B</div=
><div dir=3D"ltr"><br>On Sep 6, 2019, at 9:36 AM, Stan Foster &lt;<a href=3D=
"mailto:stan@redtr6.com";>stan@redtr6.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><div di=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">When re-torquing ARP head studs, do you need to back o=
ff the nut and lube the nut and washer before you re-tighten ?.<o:p></o:p></=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Stan<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Triumphs &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:triumphs-=
bounces@autox.team.net">triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net</a>&gt; <b>On Behalf=
 Of
</b>Jerry Van Vlack<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, September 6, 2019 6:58 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:Wbeech@flash.net";>Wbeech@flash.net</a>; Sujit R=
oy &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:triumphstag@gmail.com";>triumphstag@gmail.com</a>&gt=
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [TR] anyone have experience using APR head bolts<o:p></o=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;color:black">I did no=
t re-torque my ARP=E2=80=99s after a TR4A rebuild and 2 years later blew a h=
ead gasket with no evidence of burn thru. Studs were loose and nuts came off=
 much to easily. My fault as I always intended
 to do a re-torque but didn=E2=80=99t. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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ans-serif;color:black"> Re: [TR] anyone have experience using
 APR head bolts<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Have use=
d APR on my last 3 TR3 rebuilds, never a problem.&nbsp; Never heard anything=
 about not having to re-torque.&nbsp;&nbsp; I do after 2-3 heat cycles then a=
gain at 200 mile with the first oil change.&nbsp;&nbsp;
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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ze:12.0pt;color:black">Bill<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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m my IBM 8088<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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ze:12.0pt;color:black"><br>
On Sep 5, 2019, at 5:10 PM, Sujit Roy &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:triumphstag@gmai=
l.com">triumphstag@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;color:black">I used A=
RP head bolts on my last Stag. I torqued down the head, but never in the las=
t 5 or so years did I re-torque the heads. I recall speaking to a technician=
 over at APR and he said no need
 to re-torque&nbsp; I have not run into an issue. But am wondering what othe=
r's have to say.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Sujit<br=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Sujit Ro=
y<br>
Cupertino, California<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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