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This was the mid 1990's. I talked to the CA DMV on the phone before
buying the car and in person when I went to transfer the car. They
insisted that the Oh was not valid in a VIN and it had to be a zero.
Realized reality didn't matter with the DMV and it wasn't worth trying
to be right with the facts. Since my car has be a CA car since new, I'd
guess when initially titled in 1972, they marked it as a zero.
Brian
On 11/7/2019 4:27 AM, Reihing, Randall S. wrote:
>
> How does changing the "O" to a "0" on the paper title, match the "O"
> on the riveted metal plate still on the car itself? How is it legal
> to have a title with a VIN that does not match the VIN on the
> vehicle's riveted metal plate?
>
>
> Randall Reihing
>
> 1960 TR3A
>
> 1959 TR3A
>
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> *From:* Triumphs <triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net> on behalf of Brian
> Kemp <bk13@earthlink.net>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 6, 2019 8:50:45 PM
> *To:* Andrew Uprichard <auprichard@uprichard.net>; 'Triumphs'
> <triumphs@autox.team.net>
> *Subject:* [EXTERNAL] Re: [TR] VINs
> My California TR6 title also ends L0 - L zero. I told them it should
> be an Oh for Overdrive, but they said I couldn't have an Oh and I was
> wrong. Not worth having an argument with the DMV. The insurance
> company was fine with whatever the title said.
>
> Brian
>
> On 11/6/2019 1:13 PM, Andrew Uprichard wrote:
>>
>> I just went to get a title on a TR which came with a factory
>> overdrive. The old title appropriately ended ?LO?, but I was told
>> that ?Os? and ?Is? are no longer acceptable in titles. So I had to
>> change the VIN (on the title) to ?L0?. Then I had to call the
>> insurance company to explain the same story to them and have them
>> send me a proof of insurance with ?L0?.
>>
>> Anyone else come across this? Maybe it has been going on for years:
>> I have 4 cars with overdrive, but this was the first factory one.
>>
>> Andrew Uprichard
>>
>> Jackson, MI
>>
>>
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This was the mid 1990's. I talked to the CA DMV on the phone before
buying the car and in person when I went to transfer the car. They
insisted that the Oh was not valid in a VIN and it had to be a
zero. Realized reality didn't matter with the DMV and it wasn't
worth trying to be right with the facts. Since my car has be a CA
car since new, I'd guess when initially titled in 1972, they marked
it as a zero.<br>
<br>
Brian<br>
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<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0">How does changing the
"O" to a "0" on the paper title, match the "O" on the riveted
metal plate still on the car itself? How is it legal to have a
title with a VIN that does not match the VIN on the
vehicle's riveted metal plate?</p>
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<div style="background-color:#FFFFFF">My California TR6 title also
ends L0 - L zero. I told them it should be an Oh for Overdrive,
but they said I couldn't have an Oh and I was wrong. Not worth
having an argument with the DMV. The insurance company was fine
with whatever the title said.<br>
<br>
Brian<br>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="">I just went to get a
title on a TR which came with a factory overdrive. The
old title appropriately ended ?LO?, but I was told that
?Os? and ?Is? are no longer acceptable in titles. So I
had to change the VIN (on the title) to ?L0?. Then I
had to call the insurance company to explain the same
story to them and have them send me a proof of insurance
with ?L0?.</span></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="">Anyone else come
across this? Maybe it has been going on for years: I
have 4 cars with overdrive, but this was the first
factory one.</span></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="">Andrew Uprichard</span></p>
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