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> On 11 Nov 2019, at 1:58, TERRY SMITH <terryrs@comcast.net> wrote:
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> I may be tackling my first paint job not using aerosol cans. (The =
guinea pig I'll be practicing on is a 1954 Ford Jubilee tractor I'm =
restoring.)
>=20
> I have an 80 gallon Husky air compressor that should handle a paint =
gun readily enough. But I have no idea how that kind of painting =
happens. I suspect a gun with a resevoir to hod a pint of paint, =
something like that.
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> Any recommendations for a paint gun that won't dribble more that I do =
at my age????
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> Terry Smith, '59 TR3A
Are you painting from bare metal and up, or just a respray?
It depends on the quality of the job you want to do. It=E2=80=99s not =
just the gun. There is also (1) removal of oil droplets and water in =
your compressed air, (2) pressure control and (3) consistent and correct =
viscosity.=20
Viscosity
For a beginner, I would definitely buy a Ford 4 cup =
(https://www.ebay.com/itm/Paint-Viscosity-Cup-Ford-4/332113021733?hash=3Di=
tem4d537a8b25:g:uZ0AAOSwax5YwmeM =
<https://www.ebay.com/itm/Paint-Viscosity-Cup-Ford-4/332113021733?hash=3Di=
tem4d537a8b25:g:uZ0AAOSwax5YwmeM>). They cost almost nothing. You dilute =
the paint, fill up the cup and let it empty and count the seconds. For =
surfacer, primer, etc I would use a gun with a 1.8mm nozzle and then =
your paint should take like 35 - 45 seconds to empty. For topcoat you =
would use a gun with 1.2 - 1.3mm, and then you woiuld dilute more so it =
takes about 17 seconds to empty. So I would say buy two guns or one gun =
iwth two caps/nozzles (1.8 and 1.3mm). I would definitely buy HVLP and =
set it at 27 - 29psi. the overspray is just so much less. It=E2=80=99s =
very personal, which gun. I have no experience with harbour freight, but =
when starting out I used the TCP-Global guns =
(https://tcpglobal.com/collections/spray-guns-gravity-feed =
<https://tcpglobal.com/collections/spray-guns-gravity-feed>). On that =
page you will see for example a 1.3 gun and a 1.8 cap/nozzle, so you =
don=E2=80=99t need to buy two separate guns. Also filters for the paint =
(e.g. =
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01H7PEHEK?ref=3Dem_1p_5_ti&ref_=3Dpe_12=
416790_393974040 =
<https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01H7PEHEK?ref=3Dem_1p_5_ti&ref_=3Dpe_1=
2416790_393974040>). Now I use a Sharpe Finex FX3000 which I love - =
it=C2=B4s middle of the range in price. Regardless definitely get a =
gravity-feed gun with the cup at the top. If you really want the best =
finish and decide to spray layers of putty that you then sand off again, =
you will also also need a cheapie gun with a 2.5mm nozzle. Since you are =
sanding it down you don=E2=80=99t need to spend a lot of money on this =
gun.=20
Pressure control and filter
All car supplies places have these fairly cheap. You should set a long =
length of hose from your compressor and then put the pressure control in =
the line, nailed to a post or something. Then a further line to your =
gun. A long line from the compressor allows water in the air to condense =
before it gets to the pressure control, which usually also has a water =
trap, and for the more expensive ones, an oil trap. The pressure control =
allows you to dial the 27-29psi. Ideally you have a pressure gauge at =
the gun, but if not and you use the gauge on the pressure control, there =
is usally a 3 - 4 psi drop between the two. You dial in the pressure you =
want while holding the gun trigger half open so air only comes out of =
hte gun.=20
So the trick is consistency and to alter as little as possible between =
attempts, such as paint flow nozzle or spray width nozzle on the gun. If =
viscosity and pressure is always identical you will have a better =
chance.=20
I didn=E2=80=99t mean to write so much, but the thing is the gun is only =
the tiny bit of a paint job you can be happy with even as a beginner. =
Actually I would recommend the excellent series of How to paint your car =
videos from Eastwood on You Tube, about 15 or so, with Kevin Tetz. You =
can start here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DP_9WQmicyJU =
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DP_9WQmicyJU>.=20
Have fun - Dave
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class=3D"">On 11 Nov 2019, at 1:58, TERRY SMITH <<a =
href=3D"mailto:terryrs@comcast.net"; class=3D"">terryrs@comcast.net</a>>=
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I may be tackling my first paint job not using aerosol cans. =
(The guinea pig I'll be practicing on is a 1954 Ford Jubilee tractor I'm =
restoring.)
</div>
<div style=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-family: helvetica, arial, =
sans-serif; color: rgb(51, 51, 51);" class=3D"">
<br class=3D"">
</div>
<div style=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-family: helvetica, arial, =
sans-serif; color: rgb(51, 51, 51);" class=3D"">
I have an 80 gallon Husky air compressor that should handle a paint =
gun readily enough. But I have no idea how that kind of painting =
happens. I suspect a gun with a resevoir to hod a pint of paint, =
something like that.
</div>
<div style=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-family: helvetica, arial, =
sans-serif; color: rgb(51, 51, 51);" class=3D"">
<br class=3D"">
</div>
<div style=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-family: helvetica, arial, =
sans-serif; color: rgb(51, 51, 51);" class=3D"">
Any recommendations for a paint gun that won't dribble more that I do =
at my age????
</div>
<div style=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-family: helvetica, arial, =
sans-serif; color: rgb(51, 51, 51);" class=3D"">
<br class=3D"">
</div>
<div style=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-family: helvetica, arial, =
sans-serif; color: rgb(51, 51, 51);" class=3D"">
Terry Smith, '59 TR3A
</div>
</div></div></blockquote><br class=3D""></div><div>Are you painting =
from bare metal and up, or just a respray?</div><div>It depends on the =
quality of the job you want to do. It=E2=80=99s not just the gun. There =
is also (1) removal of oil droplets and water in your compressed air, =
(2) pressure control and (3) consistent and correct =
viscosity. </div><div>Viscosity</div><div>For a beginner, I would =
definitely buy a Ford 4 cup (<a =
href=3D"https://www.ebay.com/itm/Paint-Viscosity-Cup-Ford-4/332113021733?h=
ash=3Ditem4d537a8b25:g:uZ0AAOSwax5YwmeM" =
class=3D"">https://www.ebay.com/itm/Paint-Viscosity-Cup-Ford-4/33211302173=
3?hash=3Ditem4d537a8b25:g:uZ0AAOSwax5YwmeM</a>). They cost almost =
nothing. You dilute the paint, fill up the cup and let it empty and =
count the seconds. For surfacer, primer, etc I would use a gun with a =
1.8mm nozzle and then your paint should take like 35 - 45 seconds to =
empty. For topcoat you would use a gun with 1.2 - 1.3mm, and then you =
woiuld dilute more so it takes about 17 seconds to empty. So I would say =
buy two guns or one gun iwth two caps/nozzles (1.8 and 1.3mm). I would =
definitely buy HVLP and set it at 27 - 29psi. the overspray is just so =
much less. It=E2=80=99s very personal, which gun. I have no experience =
with harbour freight, but when starting out I used the TCP-Global guns =
(<a href=3D"https://tcpglobal.com/collections/spray-guns-gravity-feed"; =
class=3D"">https://tcpglobal.com/collections/spray-guns-gravity-feed</a>).=
On that page you will see for example a 1.3 gun and a 1.8 cap/nozzle, =
so you don=E2=80=99t need to buy two separate guns. Also filters for the =
paint (e.g. <a =
href=3D"https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01H7PEHEK?ref=3Dem_1p_5_ti&=
ref_=3Dpe_12416790_393974040" =
class=3D"">https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01H7PEHEK?ref=3Dem_1p_5_ti&a=
mp;ref_=3Dpe_12416790_393974040</a>). Now I use a Sharpe Finex FX3000 =
which I love - it=C2=B4s middle of the range in price. Regardless =
definitely get a gravity-feed gun with the cup at the top. If you really =
want the best finish and decide to spray layers of putty that you then =
sand off again, you will also also need a cheapie gun with a 2.5mm =
nozzle. Since you are sanding it down you don=E2=80=99t need to spend a =
lot of money on this gun. </div><div>Pressure control and =
filter</div><div>All car supplies places have these fairly cheap. You =
should set a long length of hose from your compressor and then put the =
pressure control in the line, nailed to a post or something. Then a =
further line to your gun. A long line from the compressor allows water =
in the air to condense before it gets to the pressure control, which =
usually also has a water trap, and for the more expensive ones, an oil =
trap. The pressure control allows you to dial the 27-29psi. Ideally you =
have a pressure gauge at the gun, but if not and you use the gauge on =
the pressure control, there is usally a 3 - 4 psi drop between the two. =
You dial in the pressure you want while holding the gun trigger half =
open so air only comes out of hte gun. </div><div>So the trick is =
consistency and to alter as little as possible between attempts, such as =
paint flow nozzle or spray width nozzle on the gun. If viscosity and =
pressure is always identical you will have a better =
chance. </div><div><br class=3D""></div><div>I didn=E2=80=99t mean =
to write so much, but the thing is the gun is only the tiny bit of a =
paint job you can be happy with even as a beginner. Actually I would =
recommend the excellent series of How to paint your car videos from =
Eastwood on You Tube, about 15 or so, with Kevin Tetz. You can start =
here: <a href=3D"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DP_9WQmicyJU"; =
class=3D"">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DP_9WQmicyJU</a>. </div><=
div>Have fun - Dave</div><br class=3D""></body></html>=
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